Price Check Price Check - TC40D trade-in to TC45DA/Cab

[Red_Dog]

We are looking into possibly trading in our TC40D for a TC45DA with the Super Suite Cab. Here are the details....

Trade-In will be a 2002 New Holland TC40D 4 wheel drive, super steer with 541 hours - Excellent condition.
a) 17LA loader with quick attach.
b) R-4 Industrial Bar tires with rears filled
c) Rear work light
d) Overhead (rops) hookup for two additional magnetic work lights - oem switch on console
e) One rear remote valve
f) Parts & Service Manual

Procure New Holland TC45DA 4 wheel drive, super steer with Super Suite cab.
a) 260TL loader with quick attach plus 72" HD QA bucket.
b) Super Suite Cab option - Add option Rear window wiper and washer kit
c) R-4 Industrial Bar tires with rears filled
d) Three rear remotes
e) Hoses and coupler for additional remote located at front of loader for grapple and tree spade.
g) Parts & Service Manual

The list price for the new unit is...(gulp)...$42,867.00. The trade-in allowance for our 2002 TC40D is $23,202.00 for a trade difference of $19,665.00. One can slice and dice this a few different ways, but I thought other users had said that if you get close to 20% of list price then you are getting a "good deal". So 20% off list is $8,573.40 and if you take that off our trade allowance of $23,202.00 you get $14,628.60. This seems low for our trade allowance, but again that is based upon us getting 20% off the list price.... If you take 15% off list then our trade looks better...so the real question is...does this seem like a good deal on the tractor?

We are also specing out two separate attachments...

Kuhn EL32-190 Tiller for $2,400.00

New Holland 72CSH Front Mount snowblower with hydraulic chute rotation and deflection. Pricing includes the mid-pto, quick-attach assembly and everything needed to get it up and running...no labor though. $5,500.00

Any comments on the attachments and pricing would also be appreciated.

Thanks for your advice in advance.

Matt.

 

[jinman]

I think I would put that pristine tractor you now have up for sale in a local newspaper. You'll get it's full value rather than getting wholesale for your trade and paying retail for your new tractor. The penalty you pay for having a trade-in is that you give the dealer two profit opportunities and guarantee yourself none. I'd sure try to sell it first.

 

[Red_Dog]

Hi Jim, Thanks for the reply and advice. I agree with you that selling our machine outright would be additional $ in our pocket or toward attachments... I have two followup questions then...1) do you agree that 20% off list is generally a good deal on the new unit if we take our trade-in out of the equation? 2) I have searched the forums looking for comps, but what is your sense of a fair price for our TC40D to be sold to a private party? Thanks again...Matt.

 

[jinman]

Matt, I think that $43k is way high even at full retail. The low $30s seems more realistic for a negotiated price. In other words, I think the tractor and loader should be about $25k. The cab is the rest of it. Get the prices broken down by item and I think you will see "something is rotten in Denmark."

I think I would ask at least $18,500 for your tractor, maybe more. You won't be able to sell it at the level a dealer would, but $18,500 to $19,000 is a good starting point.

 

[Red_Dog]

Thanks Jim. I have a few emails into the dealer asking for additional information and a breakdown of the list pricing....the list pricing was shocking when I first received it and I concur that something does not seem quite right. If some of the other NH dealers on the forum would care to comment about the configuration and pricing, It would be most appreciated. I'll keep you all posted as things progress... Matt.

 

[jinman]

Matt, here is a link posted a few days ago to a dealership in Maine. Look at the price of the TC45CAB on this list and use it as a go-by for a ballpark estimate. Consider the added $1500 for SuperSteer and $1500 for three remotes and you are still at just $34k. If you sell your tractor for $18k, that brings your price up to $16k to put you into this new tractor. Compare that to your $19.6k and you can see what you gain by selling your own tractor. If you get more for your tractor, then you will be even better off.

Now, if you can get your dealer to make you a $3k better deal, then I think you have to consider that, but my guess is he will hold out for top dollar on what is a very attractive new model tractor. Don't blink...

NH Price List

 

[HOUNDSTOOTH]

I agree with Jim. Sounds a little high to me. I don't have the options you're getting but I paid $24,434 for the TC45DA only. Dealer did give me a quote on a loader...$5,500. That alone would be around 30k. I would try to sell your current tractor outright. I sold my 1997 1720 for $6,500 with-in the first week of listing. Dealer would have gave me $5,000. I would think you could sell yours just as fast. Good luck with your dealin'.
HT
I checked some of my earlier posts. I had some things wrong here. So, I edited this post. haha My mind aint what it use to be.

 

[Red_Dog]

Hi Guys, Thanks for the link Jim. The dealer has provided me an outright purchase price (no trade) for $33,900.00 When you look at the TC45 Cab on the site that Jim provided, the unit price is $32K. When you add the supersteer and three remotes, it comes up to approx $35K. We also have the optional rear washer/wiper on the cab and additional plumbing of quick connects/hoses to the front of the loader...is that about $500? So that would bring the online tractor up to approx $35.5K? Our deal without the trade is looking better at $33.9. Selling our tractor on our own seems like the way to go to maximize our $ on that end. Thoughts? Thx, Matt.

 

[Kendall69]

I just got this price

The TC45DA tractor w deluxe cab, 4wd, R-4 industrial tires, hydro trans with 250tl loader with 72" quick attach bucket system and 758C 8 1/2' backhoe w/ 12" bucket.
Additional options included are High Visibility Panel Guard for cab roof, Front Bumper/Grille Guard,3 sets rear remotes, and AM/FM/WB/CD Radio.

Sale price is $38950.00. Current shipping rate quote is $2475.00. Quote on equipment good for 30 days. Freight quote subject to change depending on fuel pricing.

 

[jinman]

Matt, now I think you are right there with the cash price from the dealer. Kendall69's tractor has a backhoe and you have Supersteer. That accounts for the $5000 spread. Now you just have to really minimize your costs by selling your tractor at a good price. Don't become too anxious. Use the new price quote to help justify your price to any prospective buyer. From your description of your tractor, I might even start my pricing at $20k or more and see if it sold. You can always come down. Just don't let "new tractoritis" drive you into underpricing.