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   / Price fix and oil #31  
N80 said:
Of course not, the Yankees won remember?

And after living in the south, I figured out why.

That said, was with a commercial contractor in Tenn a couple years ago. I almost fell over dead when I told him where I was from (up north), and he told me... "yeah, a couple years ago I did a job up in the union" (and he was serious).
 
   / Price fix and oil #32  
Sigarms said:
Up north, people will tell you what they think. Don't like it? Tough crap, who cares?

Down south, people tell you what they think you want to hear, to keep you happy.

Not to be argumentative, but that's always what Yankees say when they think they have the manners thing figured out. They think northerners are frank and maybe brutally honest. They think southerners are duplicitous...thinking one thing and saying another.

Now, I'm not saying a southerner won't do that, they will. And so will a Yankee. Out of respect, or ambivalence or exasperation a southerner is probably more likely to do this.

But the root of southern manners and mannerisms is in respect for differences and differences in status. A respect for elders, authorities, leaders, the educated, the noble, the honest, the rich, the higher classes, women, etc. Clearly this can be taken to extremes and may have been in antebellum society.

This idea is unheard of up north where they are bred on egalitarianism that suggests that no one is any better than I am and showing respect is equated with diminishing your own status. I had a professor that I worked with before med school. He was from Brooklyn. I really liked the guy and he was my boss. I always said 'yes sir' and 'no sir' to him. He once told me that he thought that was demeaning for me. I did not argue with him. But he did not understand that showing him respect did nothing to demean me. My status was secure and in fact, showing respect for those above you confirms that you are secure with your position.

I explained to my son recently that as a teenage boy he is the lowest form of life. He should defer to women, girls, his elders, his superiors and if he is secure in who he is, to other young men as well.
 
   / Price fix and oil #33  
N80 said:
But the root of southern manners and mannerisms is in respect for differences and differences in status.

All men are created equal.

To get respect, you have to give respect.

Due unto others as you would have done unto you.

Please don't get me going on the Baptists:D
 
   / Price fix and oil #35  
Sorry Sig,

You missed the key word. R U D E. It has nothing to do about being frank. Its about being RUDE.

Cutting in line in a grocery store is rude.

Chewing out a cashier because of the prices is rude and stupid. The cashier has nothing to do with the prices. If you have a problem, see the manager. Don't take it out on the girl earning ten cents above minimum wage.

It was all about being RUDE.

It was very funny that in S. FLA there were two groups of people from NY. Those who made it a point to say they were from UPSTATE NY. And the others.

The Civil War is only a been a few generations back. My grandmother was very polite. The only time I EVER heard her say a cuss word was d......n but usually she would not even say the whole word. She would say D. Now I never heard her just say D. It was always in front of the word Yankee. :eek::D

HER grandparents had land just west of Savanah GA. On the main road to were the family house USED to stand is a historical marker talking about a certain guy named Sherman walking this way a few years back.

Seems like that Sherman dude was a D Yankee and he burned down the family house and stole everything of value.

Later,
Dan
 
   / Price fix and oil #36  
N80 said:
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I explained to my son recently that as a teenage boy he is the lowest form of life. He should defer to women, girls, his elders, his superiors and if he is secure in who he is, to other young men as well.

:D :D :D

George - I'd be willing to subsidize a vacation for you to Yankee-land in about 10 years if you'll have that conversation with all the boys my daughter will come in contact with...

Oh and for the record - some of us northerners don't enjoy rude people either. And yes NYC is the worst offender. Unfortunately they spread - especially to places I like to go - VT (skiing) the cape, the islands etc.
 
   / Price fix and oil #37  
Oh and for the record - some of us northerners don't enjoy rude people either.

And that is why I said there are Yankees and then there are Yankees. :D

Because most people in the NE are good Yankees not the other ones. :D

Later,
Dan
 
   / Price fix and oil #38  
hazmat said:
:D :D :D

George - I'd be willing to subsidize a vacation for you to Yankee-land in about 10 years if you'll have that conversation with all the boys my daughter will come in contact with...

I didn't claim that it worked!:D I'm not sure it even got through, but I think he heard me because I'm pretty sure I saw him roll his eyes.:D
 
   / Price fix and oil #39  
dmccarty said:
And that is why I said there are Yankees and then there are Yankees. :D

Because most people in the NE are good Yankees not the other ones. :D

Later,
Dan

And historically, the northernmost states in New England often shared typical southern viewpoints on agriculture, lifestyle and to some degree politics. One of the New England states considered secession long before SC ever did.

I'd love to spend some time in New England with New Englanders.
 
   / Price fix and oil #40  
I get a magazine about cooking called Cooks Illustrated. Its an excellent magazine because its not just the recipe its about WHY the recipe is the recipe. :D

What does this have to with New England? I'm getting there. But it does not have anything to do with Price Fix and Oil. :D:D:D:D

The editor of the magazine writes an editoral. Is it about cooking? Usually not. :D Its almost always about living in the country. I'm pretty sure he lives in VT. The stories are about his farm neighbors, cutting firewood, tapping trees, making syrup, etc. Not much to do with cooking. :D

I really savor his editorials. :) He/The Magazine has a tv program on Sundays on PBS which is pretty good.

He and the people he writes about are good Yankees. I wish they where my neighbors. :D

Later,
Dan
 
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