Price Check Price of a new DX23?

[panthercoach]

While I'm waiting for a a response from a local dealer on a DX23, what can I expect to pay? (manual trans, no FEL) A Kubota dealer who sells Case told me that they were getting out of Case because it was so inferior to comparable Kubota models that they just couldn't sell them. Is this true, or a personal bias on the dealer?

 

[seity]

Hi I just met with a case dealer today to find out what a new dx 23 would cost. He quoted me a price of $17,585 retail and $15,100 for a cash deal. This was with a 60" mid mount mower and hydro drive and turf tires.The mower deck added $ 2700.00 and the Hydro was a $1350 add. He also had worked up a quote for a DX 33 on his lot the night before with a loader (Lx 114) and no mower but it had industrial tires for $20,000 cash deal. This is in Iowa. Hope that helps!

 

[Boomerang1]

Don't believe the statement that Kubota is better than Case ih. I owned a Kubota and and I now own a Case ih. In my opinion, the Case ih is twice the machine. Smoother and quieter and more refined than the Kubota. Remember, just because one thing is more popular than another, doesn't mean it's better!

 

[MrJoe]

Kubota much better than Case? Not in my book. Nothing wrong w/ orange but any dealer who says red is inferior to orange is blowing smoke up your skirt. Go yourself and check them out. I did, and went w/ Case. I could have gotten anything I wanted, tried them all (well not MF, no local dealer) and bought a DX24E. OK, so a quick detach bucket would be nice and a left to right bucket tilt feature desireable but no one had that anyway in the SCUT class. Any dealer who says Case is inferior has an axe to grind IMHO.

 

[pekabu]

I swear Kubota must give the dealer better kickbacks because it's like that around here. After comparing the two, the NH (Case in blue) fit me and what I needed to get done better. I started out wanting a Kubota, and went to a dealer that sold both so I could compare side by side. They didn't want to sell me the NH. Talked to them one other time after the purchase about a snowblower and they gave me a hard time about buying blue. I reminded him that they sold them and left.

 

[Bob_Skurka]

I use a Kubota B2910 and a New Holland TC24D. New Holland TC tractors and Case DX tractors are basically the same machines, both are produced by the Case-New Holland corporation, engines come from Shibura (sp?) of Japan under contract from CNH. The main difference between the Case and N.H. models is the color of the tractor and the headlamps. In the Class 2 models, NH offers SuperSteer exclusively. Other specs and features are identical. So while I don't have a "Case" tractor I feel qualified to comment on them, and I feel qualified to compare the brands as I sit my rear in the seat of both of them.

On the smaller machines I tend to favor the Case/NH product because they have far better loader designs, the capacities are higher and I like the ergonomics better. As the size of the tractors goes up, then I still prefer the Case/NH ergonomics but the capacities even out and sometimes favor the Kubota so it really comes down to the tasks at hand as to which tractor is the better choice.

As for reliability, the B2910 is a 2000 model year, never had a problem that was not user stupidity. The TC24D is a 2003, the only problem with it has been a faulty fuel gauge. I think the Kubota engines run smoother and a bit quieter but I suspect that both will run for 10,000 hours so from that standpoint I'm not worried about either. Dealers do claim to have fewer warrenty issues with Kubota tractors than any other brand and it is hard to criticize the tractors given their popularity you'd expect some problems with them but there really are very few problems reported. That is pretty astounding given that they have nearly a 60% market share. Case/NH has something under a 15% marketshare, and has a modest amount of reported problems based on the reports in the forums. I've not really experienced any problems wtih them and actually prefer to use the smaller NH than the larger Kubota for all tasks except when I absolutely need every bit of capacity I can get.

Kubota may cost a bit less. New Holland is offering some very attractive financing, I presume they are extending it to Case. Honestly I don't think you can make a mistake with either brand, both are well designed, well engineered and well backed. I would make sure the dealers are solid and that I was comfortable with them, I'd also figure out which one I liked better, which you fit into better, and let that guide you as to what choice to make.

 

[bandit67]

I've been wondering about the well engineered part lately. /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif Seems that CNH has cut some corners here and there, possibly in the interest of increasing profits, possibly just oversights on the part of the engineers or at the manufacturing facility, I don't know. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif But I've had numerous annoying issues - broken parts (small things, but put the machine down nevertheless) on my Subcompact DX24E, now at 155 hours. Every time something breaks, falls off, detaches, etc, I fix it, then take a look at my neighbor's Kubota BX22 (350 hrs). And each time I do that, I find that the Kubota has been built a little bit better, with the apparent foresight to head off some of the problems that I've experienced with my Case.

Some of the issues could probably be attributed to the machine just not being big enough for the level of work I'm doing, but as I stated, many times I've found that it's more a matter of slightly inferior design or construction. Although I've realized that future projects at the scale of which I've taken on with this little Case are going to force me to upgrade a couple of sizes to a larger Compact tractor, based on my side by side use of a CNH SubCUT and a Kubota SubCUT, the next time I'll be purchasing a Kubota CUT. To me, the CNH models are now priced too high for the overall level of quality you get - but again, that opinion is based solely on my experience in the SubCUT arena.

I've also found that although my Case's engine was a little smoother and quieter than the Kubota when new, now at 155 hrs, it is just a bit louder and rougher running than the BX22's engine with 350 hrs. That could just be the oil, as it's time for a change, and I'm switching over to full synthetic, which has quieted down larger diesels for me in the past, so this may no longer be an issue after the oil change this weekend.

 

[pekabu]

Wow, that's unfortunate to hear. I orginally went looking for a BX (neighbor had one and it looked good) but after doing looking into it I decided to go bigger and elsewhere. He stopped by the other day with it and I wasn't overly impressed.

 

[orangebluegreen]

Just drove a Case DX26 hydro and DX23 manual. All I can say is I was thoroughly impressed and don’t know why I have mentally ignored the Case/NH while having looked at mostly Kubota. The hydro was so smooth and easy to control without whiplash and the loader fit so nice and worked so well, combined with available rear discharge MMM. I was quoted 21k for DX26 with 112 loader and MMM, $1500 less on DX23. I assume this is full retail and I personally wouldn’t consider anything other than 20% or more off that kind of price? If not GOOD LUCK selling them, but it sure is a nice machine! I had previously missed Messick’s comments on the 24’s with good incentives, wonder if any 24’s are still around?

Looks like there are used ones available in NH brand....so my path will be looking at NH/Case as a possibility I have overlooked.