Problem With New Yanmar??

[reb]

On a YM2000, anything over 180 is overheating under any circumstances.

I don't know about the above statement,

If temperatures over 180 were overheating, I think Yanmar engineers would have used an overtemperature sensor set at that temperature.

 

[Inspector507]

If temperatures over 180 were overheating, I think Yanmar engineers would have used an overtemperature sensor set at that temperature.

I think the idiot light sensor was set to come on at what.......230-235?

 

[Travis_R]

Dick, No Hard Feelings

Yes sir, I would like RCO to fix it......I told Stuart I would post any and all problems and solutions.........I am still defending them because we haven't really came to a conclusion til today..............Stuart said that I need to run only 4 and 5 foot implements............Well, I have a problem with that because I can't use what I have for the Mahindra on the Yanmar.........TOO big of implements...............Honestly, I feel like I am 'stuck' in a way........I hava a tractor that I can 'somewhat' use...........But I can not do what I really need to do..................Stuart is in Mexico right now................I think things will take a turn for the better when he gets back in a couple days...........

As of right now, If I had to do it over again, I would definitely think it over long and hard........But thats in the past..................I KNOW WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO, BUT I WANT TO TALK TO STUART BEFORE I POST ON HERE..........

Thanks for understanding,

Travis

 

[Inspector507]

I think even the dealer said a 5' cutter was too much

OOhhhh, no... Travis... I'm sorry to hear about that....I'm not gonna say we told you so....but......
For the record, we're in agreement with most of the participants here, that the 5' brush mower is too much for that tractor. I thought you were keeping that on the 40hp Mahindra.... Additionally, the cooling system should be running under pressure. Running an oversized mower on an unpressurized system is a sure fire recipe for overheating. However, so far the problem is a temp light coming on when it's NOT overheated...if I've read everything here correctly??? Classic temp sending unit problem....replacement's on the way. I'll call ya....

 

[Travis_R]

Yes he did say a 5' cutter was too much......He was talking about a 5 foot Brush Cutter.............He also said that a 6 foot finish mower was too much........But it could run and they do sell 5' finish mowers with the YM2000.......( I had a talk with him about this on one of the phone conversations)

 

[pruntyc]

But again Inspector we are getting that from the dealer, that is in question, about where it is right or wrong. I would like to see some of the regular dealers tell us, what is really right. I know on the 1700 I was told it was to run a 4 foot bush-hog, and it would run a 6 foot finish mower. Now the 2000 has 3 more HP than the 1700. So from what I was told on it, then the 2000 should be able to handle the 6 foot easy. And as easy as the 1700 worked the 4 foot bush-hog, I pretty well believe it would have run the 5 foot one, I was doing it on days that were high 90's. Hasn't some of you guys that have 2000's run 6 foot finish mowers on them??? And without them getting hot. Travis needs to know before he talks to rco so he knows what to tell them.

 

[Inspector507]

I was using my Bush Hog 5' Squealer cutter today with the tractor......


Travis

Yes he did say a 5' cutter was too much......

Isn't that what you're using?
I used a 5' RFM for hours on end with my YM1700 without problem

 

[tallyho8]

Stuart said that I need to run only 4 and 5 foot implements............Well, I have a problem with that because I can't use what I have for the Mahindra on the Yanmar.........TOO big of implements...............

Travis, When you bought a 22 hp tractor you should have known that it was not powerful enough to operate the same implements you use on your 45 hp tractor. I have a terrific YM1802 21 hp and I would never use the larger implements on it that I use on my 40 hp International.
Dudley

 

[HGM]

Didnt you tell him that you were going to run the implements you had on the tractor before you bought it?? What was the reply then??

I mentioned this a bit earlier, in a round about way... But, my YM2000 will run my 4' brush hog all day long in near 100deg temps without overheating as long as the radiator is clean.. Now, for a little more info.. I run mine prety hard, in fact hard enough to monitor and keep it from bogging/lugging.. I can cut thick briar feilds over 10' tall for hours and not have a light come on.. I would completely expect the tractor to stall or bogg down long before overheating, thats why the overheat situation I had was so perplexing for me.. After all, mine was a simple fix.. I doubt the cutter is causing the overheat, I could be wrong, but I doubt it.... Wanna ship it to me for a test??

 

[roxynoodle]

Well, folks, tell me if I'm wrong here but I'm thinking the smaller Yanmar shouldn't be using the same implements as the considerably larger Mahindra. I'm not sure if he told us whether the rotary cutter is light, medium or heavy duty? There would be a vast difference between a light duty and heavy duty one. Does he have an overheating problem anyway? Probably. Sometimes I run my tractor all day, mowing, brush hogging and using the loader and it has never overheated. I am wondering, Travis, if you wanted the Yanmar for a smaller, more manueverable tractor for mowing? If so, you might want to invest in the 5 ft finish mower. I am thinking though that it should pull a 6' one if my 1510 has no trouble with a 5' one. If the Mahindra won't be used for finish mowing anymore, maybe you could sell the 6 ft one. And use the Mahindra for brush mowing.

RCO should be the ones to make it right with your tractor though. And if it's not going to be a simple fix, I don't think it's too much to ask that they get you another tractor.

 

[phatgemi]

Well here is my .02. I have had a ym2000 for almost 6 years. I have ran and continue to run a 6 foot Caroni finish mower for mowing approx 4 acre yard. Mostly flat but the 2000 has absolutely NO problem at all running the 6 foot mower. Now I do need to put 2 weights on the front to prevent froginess. In addition to the finish mower I (when I bought tractor) got a 5 foot bush hog brush cutter. The tractor would handle it powerwise but believe it was marginal and the biggest issue was the weight of the 5 footer. It just made the tractor to front end light. On the advice of the dealer I switched to the 4 footer and all is well. I have used it the entire time with no problems. At one point I did have the temp light come on a couple times but never had any boilover. I replaced the sensor and never had another problem until this past year. I noticed I was losing water/antifreeze but no heating issue. I was losing it via the weep hole in the water pump. Welcome to the replace waterpump issue. I took my pump off and had it rebuilt. Had the radiator gone over while pump was off. Never had a problem since and it was replaced back in march. Cooling system on these little tractors is not that complicated. You sure should not be having these issues on a "ReMan" tractor!

 

[pruntyc]

The 2000 is figured to be 24 hp, not 22. And the 15 is figured at 18. So like the man said, if he can pull a 5 foot with a 18 hp tractor, one that is 6 hp more should have no trouble with a 6 foot. I didn't have a finish mower, but was told the 1700 which would be around 20 HP, wouldn't have a problem with a 6 foot one. Comes right back to where rco should make something right, one way or the other.

 

[Tom_Veatch]

- A little larger tractor (YM2220D w/FEL mounted)
- 5' rotary cutter (borrowed JD Gyramor 305?? 503??, something like that)
- 8 acres, flat with grass/weeds from knee to head high (no woody brush)
- 2200 RPM, 3rd on the gearbox, #3 on the PowerShift.
- Coolant temp in the middle of the green arc except when the radiator screen was full of chaff. Clean the screen, temp goes back to the middle of the green.

Does the 2HP difference between a 2000 and a 2220 make that much difference. I have no hesitation running a 5' cutter on my 2220D. The tractor didn't act like it even knew the cutter was back there.

 

[Travis_R]

Maybe I should tell them to go ahead and have the radiator re-cored.........I could take it to my local rad. shop and send RCO the bill...........I personally would feel a lot better if something was done with the radiator, or, RCO could just send me a new one to put on there............I now believe the tractor is running on the hot side after reading the above posts..........

As far as implements goes, I am using a Bush Hog SQ600 Squealer (5ft.) (Bush Hog®) rotary cutter.............The 6' Finish Mower is manufactured by LMC (Lowery Manufacturing)...............

Travis

 

[DavesTractor]

I believe you said the coolant was dirty when you got it. That would be somewhat normal on a 25 year old tractor. Probably the recon work did not include the radiator (seems odd) or you surely would not have had anything but nice clean coolant. I'd pull the radiator and have a local shop take the tanks off and rod it out. If it is a good solid core, it will be like new. If the water flows through it well and the air flows through it without restriction, it makes a huge difference. I would think the tractor should spin a 5' rotary in grass/weeds without getting hot, as long as it was operated with some common sense, ie correct ground speed for conditions and of course 540 PTO rpm.

It sounds like the dealer is trying hard. That is to his credit. To his discredit is the fact that this was a reconditioned tractor yet it appears a very basic and important element...the cooling system, was overlooked.

 

[Travis_R]

You know, I gotta say that as of right now I have not been exactly 100 percent satisfied with this YM2000 or RCO Tractor..............RCO keeps on insisting that it is the size of the implements..................Maybe they don't want to spend the time/labor on getting it fixed (speculating)................I don't know....................Being a customer though, I would feel A LOT BETTER if RCO could do something about the radiator...............If that is not the problem, which I think it is, we could move on to the next possible cause of having such a high temperature...............Maybe a new water pump or something.................As far as costs is concern, I should NOT have to come up with any out of pocket expense what so ever....................I hope someone from RCO is keeping up with these posts..............As of now, I am NOT a happy customer...............I am willing to do the labor myself as far as removing the radiator because I know how to do that................BUT RCO should have to pay the bill to have it re-cored..................I really wish Stuart will get back in town so he could read/reply to all these posts and get me and my tractor on the right path.........I know he or John will comment on them.........................I JUST HOPE THEY END UP DOING THE RIGHT THING..............My little Yannie has a virus.......It is "running fever" and we need to bring it down!

Seriously, I have had some minor issues with my tractor since the first day it was delivered.............I expected to have to tighten up some screws/bolts (no big deal to me)..........I did not expect to have a blown headlight bulb (still no big deal), which RCO already took care of.................I have a grease zerk missing on a front tie-rod end that I'll buy and install myself very soon (no big deal)......That is minor............The shackle that is part of the 3ph sway chains bent (made out of cheap material, but no big deal to me)........I had an extra one that is a lot more stronger than the one that came with it and I put it on............But really other than that, that is all the problems I've had....................My only 'real' problem/concern is the over-heating issue ( this has become a big deal to me now).....................

I talked to Stuart today on the phone.........He was in Mexico........Been delivering tractors...............He has had quite a few truck problems on his trip to the west coast (poor feller).........I honestly really did felt sorry for him...............He had to pull over on the side of the road today Just to talk to me because he kept loosing a signal..............He called me back when he pulled over.................You see, I have faith that when he gets back everything will be taken care of with my radiator/tractor............The ONLY concern I have with my tractor as of now is with the cooling issue..................

Oh forgot to mention..The headlights sometimes don't want to wor when I pull up on the "1st stage " (either high or low beam, not sure which one it is) of the switch............Stuart said just to spray some contact cleaner in there............And also, I have alittle oil seapage around the gear shift lever rubber boot.............Stuart said that the little "horse shoe" looking tube behind the seat on top of the lift housing is probably just stopped up by a dirt dobber or something.......He said just take a piece of wire and push it up in there and un stop it OR unscrew it and clean it real good..................But again, NEITHER one of these "issues" is a big deal to me................Something HAS to be done about the temperature though......I imagine it is only going to get worse in time because I do use the tractor regularly..............

Travis R

 

[Travis_R]

Ya'll know something,............I wonder if my YM2000 is a YM2000A? It has the letter "A" in my serial number on the engine block................

I was looking at the cooling system parts diagram break down at hoyetractor.com

I have some parts on my tractor that isn't in the diagram..........Mine is made a little different........

I'm not trying to start a big scene, I'm just curious..........

Travis R

 

[Tractors4u]

I have some parts on my tractor that isn't in the diagram..........Mine is made a little different........

Travis R

I am not trying to start an anti Vietnam recon thread with the following comment, but, it is common for these tractors to have different parts than what came on them from the factory. A common theme is someone ordering a part for a Vietnam reconditioned tractor from someone other than the dealer they purchased from and not getting what they needed. For example, you might order a fuel filter from Hoye or EFC and you state that you need a filter for a YM2000. The filter they send you is definately for a YM2000 but it does not match what you took off of your tractor. Come to think of it, and this is a long shot, but is it possible that your over heating problem could be caused by a water pump without the GPM needed or a radiator that isn't large enough?

 

[buppy69]

Travis

You keep saying all this little things are no problen to you, but all these little problems add up to one big problem. If a tractor has been truly remanufactured, the coolant would have to be changed when the engine was disassembled. You keep defending RCO but in my book if I bought what was considered a basicly "new" tractor and had all these problems, I'd be mad and wonder what kind of scam they're pulling. As far as buying a tractor too small, that's your fault. The rule of thub for finish moweres is 1 foot bigger than your brush cutter. I know people aren't following that rule on here but it could be dangerous safety wise.

Eugene

 

[normde2001]

Overheating on a compact tractor should be a non-issue, unless you have back-flushed the system, had the radiator rodded out, have full-flow clear water running through the system and it still overheats. It ain't rocket science. When/if you decide to fix it, your only concern will be if it is running hot enough.