Problem With New Yanmar??

[HGM]

Well, I personally think you do have some heating problem, and I think he does to. It should be able to run a 6 foot finish mower, and because he also thinks you have a heating problem, he is saying to go with a 5. A good salesman can make you believe things that aren't always completely true, and I think this is one of those times. He can save a lot of money if he can make you believe it is right. There is people running a 6 foot one, with a 1700, and it don't have a water pump, and they aren't having a heating problem. You better think about it, as when the guarantee period is up, you have nothing to do then, it will be to late.

I have to agree with Dick here... I think you still have an issue, but give it a try and see what it does.. Keep in mind that the ambiant temp might play a part in it as well.. Keep an eye on things an keep RCO involved until the waranty runs up, dont let it sneek up on you..

I think they deserve some credit for being available after noon on a Saturday, on Labor Day weekend, to speak with a customer.

I do agree with tis too, props to them for that..

 

[Tom_Veatch]

Norm, in.re. overtemp limit, I was just going by the statement that anything over 180 was overheating under any circumstances. I don't know the setpoint on thermostat equipped Yanmars (if any), but a 180F thermostat in a liquid cooled engine is, I believe, generally considered to be on the cool side. And, as I'm sure you know, running too cold will damage an engine. Just not as fast as running it too hot.

I wish I could state the normal operating temp on my 2220D, but I can't. The factory installed gauge only has a broad green arc, narrow white/yellow arc, and a redline. No numbers. Working, it runs middle of the green, loafing/idling it's usually in the lower half of the green. Only see it in the upper half of the green or in the yellow when the screen/radiator is blocked. That's even when I'm pulling a heavy 5' JD rotary cutter.

If I was worried about it, I'd try to replace the existing gages with calibrated numeric gages. Until then, I'll have to go with what I was taught in flight school - Believing the gages might get you killed; not believing the gages WILL get you killed.

 

[Travis_R]

As far as the 6' finishing mower issue goes, I'M NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO RUN IT......I just got through cutting a VERY little bit of grass with my 6' LMC finis mower...........I had to shut the tractor down..........It got up to 220 degrees and I got scared so I shut it off.............Stuart said it shouldn't run over 200 degrees with 4 and 5 foot implements............But i'll tell ya' that I don't think (speculating) that running a 1 foot LESS finish mower (5ft.) than what i'm running now will bring the temp down 20-30 degrees.............I just don't see how thats possible.............You see, I have 5 and 6 foot implements for my Mahindra, which I gotta say handles them Extremely well (45hp), so I really can't see going to buy Smaller implements JUST for the Yanmar...........I think I need a bigger tractor............Maybe a YM2500, YM2310, or a YM3000 (which I really like).............It don't make any sense to me going and buying a 5' finish mower when I already have a 6'............

Well,,,,,,,,,,,,,Any one want to buy a YM2000 at a good price??

Travis R

tricks@charter.net

 

[pruntyc]

You aren't a very honest person. You know as we have all told you, you have a tractor that isn't what it should be. And now you want to stick someone else with it, instead of making rco do what he said. He guaranteed it you said, well, make him fix it or give you your money back. It should run a 6 foot finish mower as I told you, if it won't then its not because the tractor is too small, it needs fixed. Face it man, you have been had by a recon, that everyone tried to tell everyone about before.

 

[Travis_R]

NOW WAIT JUST A MINUTE................What the the hel* do you mean Im not an honest person and that Im trying to "stick" someone with it..............I Posted that I would give someone a good price........Because of the heating issue.............I think I need a bigger................You know what???? Just go back and read my last post and try to understand it before you go to running your mouth, man............If you have known me for a while, you would see that I am as honest as a person can be.........Do you need refrences to my friends and co-workers? I'll GLADLY give them to ya'...........I know what it is.......I have a vietnam recon and you, like mostly everyone else don't like them..............Everypne one here has been SO helpful to me, INCLUDING you until you made your comments.

Travis

 

[Inspector507]

On a YM2000, anything over 180 is overheating under any circumstances.

I don't know about the above statement, but water won't boil until 212 degrees. A sealed cooling system should be able to handle 190-210 all day long. Water will expand and flow from the radiator to the overflow container when it heats up, that's normal. When it cools it contracts and gets sucked back into the radiator if there is an overflow container and a properly sized radiator cap. Water and water-antifreeze combo will boil out at a much higher temp under pressure.
I haven't wrenched on many cars recently but in the old days, it wasn't out of the normal to install a 180-195 degree thermostat. That's the temp it opens to get some cooling.

A lot depends on circumstances. What's the ambient temp, the humidity, the size/weight of the implement, the drag induced on the tractor?

I agree a 5' rotary cutter is probably too large for a YM2000. I have not owned a YM2000, but I used a YM1700 for quite a few years without the water pump that a YM2000 has and I never got worried until I hit 230 or above

 

[Travis_R]

Inspector,

What did you do to bring the temp down on the 1700 besides letting it cool? What I mean is did you get a new radiator, install a YM2000 water pump, etc...?

 

[Inspector507]

Inspector,

What did you do to bring the temp down on the 1700 besides letting it cool? What I mean is did you get a new radiator, install a YM2000 water pump, etc...?

I did nothing except make sure the radiator and prescreen was clean. It operated all day at 190-210 when I had it.

 

[California]

Travis, these tractors are designed to run flat out at rated hp and never overheat. In Japan they are used primarily to rototill, a continuous heavy-load task. I'm sure the rated hp is continuous, for example running an irrigation pump or generator day and night. If it won't do that it without overheating, and you are using the correct sized implements, then it doesn't meet spec.

Dick, lighten up. Name-calling isn't going to improve anything here. Let's talk tractors, not personalities.

 

[pruntyc]

Travis you pretty well know that no one on here would want it, as even if rco would fix it for you, when you sell it, the guarantee would be history. You said in an earlier post that if it was bad you would sell it, that is why I said that. If its fixed first then you are honest, or tell the person buying it, if they would, what is wrong with it. And as far as not liking a Vietnam recon, well, most people know that a lot of them are junk, but you said from the start, you didn't think it would happen to you, for you liked the things rco said to you on the phone, they must be salesmen, as you are still defending them. And I had a YM1700 for about three years, and I'm sure it would have run a 6 foot finish mower without a problem. I only had a 4 foot bush-hog, but cut some real heavy stuff with it, and it didn't get hot, unless I let the radiator get loaded with chafe. And that is without a water pump, and not up north like the inspector, but close to you, I'm in MS. I'm not trying to make you mad, just think you should do the right thing and make rco fix it like they said they would. You are right California, I was wrong.