Property line on19.5 acres

[2458n]

How timely. I am doing this tomorrow with the neighbor to my north. 3 acres one line 1700.00 dollars. I am really really pissed. 30 years and no complaints now the trees are shading some 80 yard stretch of field. If I move to the farm I will have the same problem with a sheriff who has a tree stand in his back yard to hunt my property. Warning to all -get a survey when buying anything.

 

[aczlan]

I'm with trying to get my own line with the elevated post, laser ect tra. If you dont feel comfortable with your line, you dont have to build the fence without getting a surveyor. From what I have been told by several surveyors, is it isn't 100% accurate anyway, could be a foot off here and there. I know they can use GPS, but not in the woods for clear line of sight to the sky. (what my last surveyor told me)
In any case, I see some brush cutt'n being done!

Umm, most surveyors can get to within a few hundredths of a foot inn the woods without GPS. Yes, GPS can be faster in open areas, but it can be done without it (been there and done that as an intern working for a surveyor back before GPS was available).

Aaron Z

 

[GGB]

Tim, I'd get this done right from the start! I've read that some places in Kentucky still have boundary/ownership problems that started when Daniel Boone and Simon Kenton first began settling there. No fault of theirs, it's just the way things happened sometimes way back then.

Anyway, if I could afford 19 acres, I could sure afford to have it properly surveyed and make CERTAIN that I really owned the amount of land along the lines that I paid for.

X3! Any property I buy in the future will require an updated survey, with permanent markers along the sides, not just at the corners. It will reduce the problems from misunderstood property lines, like when your neighbor tells you that the guy who sold to him said the property line goes to BLANK. Especially true if you intend to build a structure or fence. And does anyone think a survey will be cheaper in the future?

Let's just say that I've learned the hard way. Thankfully, not an expensive lesson, but problems could have been avoided if I'd required a survey as a condition of purchase.

 

[PastTense]

Have you talked to the neighbor about this? What did he say? You might lay out a tentative line to the best of your ability and ask him to verify it.

 

[Ken45101]

Around here, the county GIS maps cannot be trusted. We have a rental piece of property that shows a 20' dogleg that follows an exiting fence. However, the deed doesn't have the dogleg! The neighbor has a shed built right across the property line

Fences do not have to be on the property line. Our one fence stays on our side of the creek (sensible) even though in some places the actual line is 30' across the creek. I try to keep the survey markers visible (I need to get out there and put in a few new markers.)

 

[KYDan]

Around here, the county GIS maps cannot be trusted. We have a rental piece of property that shows a 20' dogleg that follows an exiting fence. However, the deed doesn't have the dogleg! The neighbor has a shed built right across the property line

Fences do not have to be on the property line. Our one fence stays on our side of the creek (sensible) even though in some places the actual line is 30' across the creek. I try to keep the survey markers visible (I need to get out there and put in a few new markers.)

This is very true the fence may or may not be on the line and very often is not. The lines may even differ from deed to deed for no explicable reason. On the boundary with my northern neighbor the lines from my deed and theirs do not agree and there is sort of a no man's land between the calls on the deeds. And, the same family formerly owned both parcels. I didn't worry about it and simply placed the fence on what met the calls in my deed. A few feet is really insignificant. However, there have been feuds and murders over a few feet of ground. It's not worth ill will and possibly worse over a tiny bit of earth.

 

[dmccarty]

I have played with my GPS to find our property lines. I can stand at the marked corner, all of the corners are in the woods, and watch the GPS bounce my position all over the place. I have done this in the winter with no leaf cover though the pines still had needles. If I walked between two marked points the GPS position can go all over the place. I think the best I have ever seen the position was within five feet of the line or marker. Sometimes/most times it has been around 30 feet or so off. Deeper in the brush, well, forget about it. :laughing::laughing::laughing: You can't find a property line with this much inaccuracy. One might get close enough to find a marker but I would certainly not build something of value based on a $200-300 GPS.

Later,
Dan

 

[Ken45101]

^^^ I agree, I have not found the GPS's to be all that good. I can do better with a good compass.

 

[dave1949]

A good non-commercial GPS is what, about plus/minus 3 meters (~15 ft) in accuracy?

They have their uses, but I wouldn't build a property line fence based on a consumer GPS unit.

 

[QueBota]

Useful for hiking, yes. Useful for getting a rough idea of property line, yes. Useful for determining actual boundaries, no.

Most Google Earth imagery for the U.S. has a resolution of 1 meter, some urban areas offer much higher resolution which could be more useful but still not good enough. It is hard to cleary
identify features on the ground smaller than 2 meters with 1 meter resolution imagery.

I have an approx. $450 Garmin GPS device, closest I can get to a known location is around 5 feet; however it is not repeatable. The same location will always show different coordinates. The high end ($$$$+) GPS devices used when accuracy counts, must be left in position for a period of time to achieve satifactory accuracy.

I would spend the $$$ on a professional survey, get them to put in as many pins as possible.

My .02,
Dave

I use a GPS to hike all the time. Try this--
Get the coordinates at your two corners with a handheld GPS device. Open Google Earth on your computer. Start at one corner, mark it. Go to the other corner, mark it. Draw a straight line between the two. Now anywhere on that line, google earth with give you the coordinates. Put your mouse pointer on 4 or 5 spots along the straight line. Write down all your coordinates. Now go out and mark each one on the line untill you have enough points to be able to see your line all the way from corner to corner.