MamaLlama
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Just ordered a new 42.5 hp tractor that weighs 6,820 w/FEL. Salesman recommended filling rear tires with 75% water. Do I want to do this? What are my other options for filling? Your thoughts, please.
Pros and Cons of loaded back tires
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Redneck_Randy
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Welcome to TBN!
Have a look at this thread.
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Board/nhown/Number/884225/page/1/view/collapsed/sb/5/fpart/1
Randy
Have a look at this thread.
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Board/nhown/Number/884225/page/1/view/collapsed/sb/5/fpart/1
Randy
Redneck_Randy
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Welcome to TBN!
Have a look at this thread.
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Board/nhown/Number/884225/page/1/view/collapsed/sb/5/fpart/1
Randy
Have a look at this thread.
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Board/nhown/Number/884225/page/1/view/collapsed/sb/5/fpart/1
Randy
Bird
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Options for filling include:
1. just water (if you don't think it'll ever freeze or if you don't think you'll ever use the tractor while the water in the tires is frozen,
2. water and automotive antifreeze (keeping in mind that any leak leaves a toxic substance if any of your animals should drink it),
3. calcium chloride (which is heavier than the others and won't freeze, popular up north and I'll be surprised if you can even find it in Texas, and since it's corrosive, it will over a long period of time probably rust the rims, and if it leaks out, it'll kill any vegetation it leaks onto),
4. non-toxic antifreeze (sometimes known as RV antifreeze for the potable water systems in RVs),
5. foam (several different types, very expensive, and very difficult to cut the tire off the rim if you ever need to replace tires),
6. if I remember right, something called Rim Guard, which is a non-toxic substance made from beet juice.
The number one purpose in filling the tires is to add weight, thereby increasing traction, and perhaps increasing stability a little bit. So if you don't think you're going to be losing traction and spinning the wheels, you may not need to fill the tires. You didn't say what you're going to use the tractor for, what kind of implements, what kind of terrain, etc. I suspect you did discuss such things with the salesman, and he should have a fair idea of what you need (although there are some tractor salesmen, as with any other sales personnel, who don't really know their product). Of course the main reason to use the foam is to eliminate the possibility of flats.
So . . ., welcome to Tractorbynet, and of course the above is just my opinion. I've used tractors both with and without filled tires.
1. just water (if you don't think it'll ever freeze or if you don't think you'll ever use the tractor while the water in the tires is frozen,
2. water and automotive antifreeze (keeping in mind that any leak leaves a toxic substance if any of your animals should drink it),
3. calcium chloride (which is heavier than the others and won't freeze, popular up north and I'll be surprised if you can even find it in Texas, and since it's corrosive, it will over a long period of time probably rust the rims, and if it leaks out, it'll kill any vegetation it leaks onto),
4. non-toxic antifreeze (sometimes known as RV antifreeze for the potable water systems in RVs),
5. foam (several different types, very expensive, and very difficult to cut the tire off the rim if you ever need to replace tires),
6. if I remember right, something called Rim Guard, which is a non-toxic substance made from beet juice.
The number one purpose in filling the tires is to add weight, thereby increasing traction, and perhaps increasing stability a little bit. So if you don't think you're going to be losing traction and spinning the wheels, you may not need to fill the tires. You didn't say what you're going to use the tractor for, what kind of implements, what kind of terrain, etc. I suspect you did discuss such things with the salesman, and he should have a fair idea of what you need (although there are some tractor salesmen, as with any other sales personnel, who don't really know their product). Of course the main reason to use the foam is to eliminate the possibility of flats.
So . . ., welcome to Tractorbynet, and of course the above is just my opinion. I've used tractors both with and without filled tires.
Bird
Rest in Peace
Options for filling include:
1. just water (if you don't think it'll ever freeze or if you don't think you'll ever use the tractor while the water in the tires is frozen,
2. water and automotive antifreeze (keeping in mind that any leak leaves a toxic substance if any of your animals should drink it),
3. calcium chloride (which is heavier than the others and won't freeze, popular up north and I'll be surprised if you can even find it in Texas, and since it's corrosive, it will over a long period of time probably rust the rims, and if it leaks out, it'll kill any vegetation it leaks onto),
4. non-toxic antifreeze (sometimes known as RV antifreeze for the potable water systems in RVs),
5. foam (several different types, very expensive, and very difficult to cut the tire off the rim if you ever need to replace tires),
6. if I remember right, something called Rim Guard, which is a non-toxic substance made from beet juice.
The number one purpose in filling the tires is to add weight, thereby increasing traction, and perhaps increasing stability a little bit. So if you don't think you're going to be losing traction and spinning the wheels, you may not need to fill the tires. You didn't say what you're going to use the tractor for, what kind of implements, what kind of terrain, etc. I suspect you did discuss such things with the salesman, and he should have a fair idea of what you need (although there are some tractor salesmen, as with any other sales personnel, who don't really know their product). Of course the main reason to use the foam is to eliminate the possibility of flats.
So . . ., welcome to Tractorbynet, and of course the above is just my opinion. I've used tractors both with and without filled tires.
1. just water (if you don't think it'll ever freeze or if you don't think you'll ever use the tractor while the water in the tires is frozen,
2. water and automotive antifreeze (keeping in mind that any leak leaves a toxic substance if any of your animals should drink it),
3. calcium chloride (which is heavier than the others and won't freeze, popular up north and I'll be surprised if you can even find it in Texas, and since it's corrosive, it will over a long period of time probably rust the rims, and if it leaks out, it'll kill any vegetation it leaks onto),
4. non-toxic antifreeze (sometimes known as RV antifreeze for the potable water systems in RVs),
5. foam (several different types, very expensive, and very difficult to cut the tire off the rim if you ever need to replace tires),
6. if I remember right, something called Rim Guard, which is a non-toxic substance made from beet juice.
The number one purpose in filling the tires is to add weight, thereby increasing traction, and perhaps increasing stability a little bit. So if you don't think you're going to be losing traction and spinning the wheels, you may not need to fill the tires. You didn't say what you're going to use the tractor for, what kind of implements, what kind of terrain, etc. I suspect you did discuss such things with the salesman, and he should have a fair idea of what you need (although there are some tractor salesmen, as with any other sales personnel, who don't really know their product). Of course the main reason to use the foam is to eliminate the possibility of flats.
So . . ., welcome to Tractorbynet, and of course the above is just my opinion. I've used tractors both with and without filled tires.
texbaylea
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I have the tires filled on my Kubota to counter balance the loader and the tree shear. This is in preference to hanging a heavy box blade or a ballast box on the rear. Works well for me and also means I don't have to watch my rear as close as with something hanging on the back.
I am using pure water as freezing the tires is usually not a problem and if we should have a 4-5 days below freezing (not likely) I can wait for the tires to thaw.
On those few occasions where I will be working to the capacity of the loader I will put on the box blade for safety.
Vernon
I am using pure water as freezing the tires is usually not a problem and if we should have a 4-5 days below freezing (not likely) I can wait for the tires to thaw.
On those few occasions where I will be working to the capacity of the loader I will put on the box blade for safety.
Vernon
texbaylea
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- Kubota L3130HST w/LA723 loader
I have the tires filled on my Kubota to counter balance the loader and the tree shear. This is in preference to hanging a heavy box blade or a ballast box on the rear. Works well for me and also means I don't have to watch my rear as close as with something hanging on the back.
I am using pure water as freezing the tires is usually not a problem and if we should have a 4-5 days below freezing (not likely) I can wait for the tires to thaw.
On those few occasions where I will be working to the capacity of the loader I will put on the box blade for safety.
Vernon
I am using pure water as freezing the tires is usually not a problem and if we should have a 4-5 days below freezing (not likely) I can wait for the tires to thaw.
On those few occasions where I will be working to the capacity of the loader I will put on the box blade for safety.
Vernon
PineRidge
Super Member
6. Wheel weights & weight bar or weight box. You can take them off when you don't need them and handling a rear tire that hasen't been filled is a lot easier on your mind and your body.
Who knows you may want to get in the garden some day without worrying about an extra 1000 pounds that further compacts the soil.
Who knows you may want to get in the garden some day without worrying about an extra 1000 pounds that further compacts the soil.
PineRidge
Super Member
6. Wheel weights & weight bar or weight box. You can take them off when you don't need them and handling a rear tire that hasen't been filled is a lot easier on your mind and your body.
Who knows you may want to get in the garden some day without worrying about an extra 1000 pounds that further compacts the soil.
Who knows you may want to get in the garden some day without worrying about an extra 1000 pounds that further compacts the soil.
