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I make hydraulic hoses at my store . Something I see frequently are hoses that are skinned , chaffed , or mashed . Hoses are expensive and some problems can be prevented . Watch the routing of hoses . Hoses touching each other or touching other things . I take a piece of heater hose the same i.d. as the o.d. of the hydraulic hose , split the heater hose , wrap and cable tie in place . This provides a little extra protection .
 
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Probably works fine, but doesn't sound like it looks very neat with the cable ties along the length of a split outside hose.
Maybe either slip the outside hose over the hyd. hose before crimping the end fittings, or use the expandable plastic mesh-like stocking over the hose.

McMaster Carr has the mesh stocking material.

Routing hoses so they cannot become chafed and worn is a good plan too.
 
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I have found the grey plastic flexible electrical conduit to work well, too.
If you do not remember to put it on before the hose end fittings, it
can be split with a knife and it grabs the hyd hose really well, without
zip ties.

I have also found chafed leaky hoses INSIDE that mesh that comes with
some factory installations. Outa site, outa mind, I guess.
 
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I did the heater hose on a new tractor fel to protect already assembled hoses , I have the mesh covering for new hoses . The heater hose and u.v. black cable ties are not very noticeable if you take your time measuring , cutting and installing . I am very picky , if it looked bad it wouldn't be on there .
 
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I don't like the heater hose idea. You do not want something that is going to hold the moisture and contaminants on to the hose. You want the hose to be able to breathe, unless you have something like 100R18 plastic synflex type. Even the cloth or plastic hose wraps allow the hose to breathe and let moisture out. It's great that you're getting creative, but find something that won't rot the hose out.
 
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I had a hose do what Wayne is talking about. Someone thought they would try and relieve the chafing, but they formed a loop at the bottom of the hose, and water got in, the hose rusted and blew out one day.

I recommend spiral wrap.
 
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I make hydraulic hoses at my store . Something I see frequently are hoses that are skinned , chaffed , or mashed . Hoses are expensive and some problems can be prevented . Watch the routing of hoses . Hoses touching each other or touching other things . I take a piece of heater hose the same i.d. as the o.d. of the hydraulic hose , split the heater hose , wrap and cable tie in place . This provides a little extra protection .

Welcome to the World of Hose Replacements.......Your customers will do everything in their power to blame their worn/taddered leaky hose problems on others......The best way to prevent any and all of this is to install them correctly with proper clearances/lengths and applications in mind and don't abuse the equipment....

If proper installation techniques are followed then they will last for years....IMHO cover materials should only be used for a last ditch effort from external abrasion.......Frame/steel edges should never touch the hoses...

Best thing for you is to keep making them just as the customer wants, the wear and tear on these can be readily installed on the jobsite with abuse.....
 
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back to the drawing board ...
 
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Whats wrong with the spiral plastic guard.....little $'y but have never left me disappointed.....no clamps etc....just wrap it around....great for bundling hoses too.....most hydraulic shops have them...
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By popular vote on the site , I am re-doing my f.e.l. this morning with the plastic spiral wrap .
 
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Something similar to that spiral wrap is split poly looming used for wiring harness' - I did my loader hoses when the tractor was new almost 9 years ago and has done very well on my abused tractor. I used one cable tie at each end of the poly but didn't need any along the length of the runs - just keeps a branch or something from starting to peel it off if it caught. Being the split type it allows all water to drain out but still tight enough to keep rocks etc. out. It cost me about $20 to do the whole thing and has really saved my hose considering my tractor has spent it's whole life outside - the sun is extremely bad on the hoses too besides the chaffing.
 
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I make hydraulic hoses at my store . Something I see frequently are hoses that are skinned , chaffed , or mashed . Hoses are expensive and some problems can be prevented . Watch the routing of hoses . Hoses touching each other or touching other things . I take a piece of heater hose the same i.d. as the o.d. of the hydraulic hose , split the heater hose , wrap and cable tie in place . This provides a little extra protection .

I've been doing the same thing for years. Works like a champ!
 
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I'm not sure what heater hose costs, but there are lots of other functional and efficient ways to protect your hydraulic hoses. My personal favorite is the plastic spiral guard, but you can also use nylon sleeving or even HOSE ARMOR Steel Protective Coil (HA) to protect your hoses from abrasion damage and other hazards.

The best, cheapest protection of all, though, is good system design and proper hose routing. Avoid tight bends and hose routing that causes your hoses to rub against moving parts on your equipment.
 
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The best, cheapest protection of all, though, is good system design and proper hose routing. Avoid tight bends and hose routing that causes your hoses to rub against moving parts on your equipment.

My point exactly.....:thumbsup:
 
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Unfortunately in some applications good hydraulic system design and functionality don't always go together. We often have to use mixture of everything mentioned (except heater hose) to protect hoses. Spiral wrap is easy and cheap, a nylon hose sleeve is a bit better but moderately priced and somewhat limited for installation, the best stuff is a zippered hose sleeve but it is costly and tends to only be used for the most labour intensive jobs. Having a mechanic spend 16+ hours changing a hose really isn't ever worth the cost of some hose protection.
 
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I like the plastic hose guard the best. I have seen the steel spiral wrap and steel wire get crimped into the hose and do more damage than if it we're never on.
 

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