Protecting seedlings from snowmobilers?

RoadHogg · Oct 22, 2010

radioman said:
ggb- issue is that land for riding is getting less and less every year and there are more and more snowmobiles being made. When there ar less land to ride on, sometimes trails gets broken by owners who got fed up with bad riders so new trails needs to be made. sometimes old trail is still there but need detour by riding on roads then back on trail. some riders ignore this with no sense of respect.

compound this problem with faster and lighter snowmobiles with lots of power. mentality has it where people buy them and WANT to use all that power but no place to go but on private lands that looks WIDE open. Its a shame that snowmobles are not being used as workhorses anymore, but for entertainment only with TOO much power.

I grew up with snowmobiles and currently have one for kids to ride on grandparants land for fun, but we don't go on trails as there are too many riders showing off and making bumps on trails. Its not what I want to teach my kids.

If people want wide open space to ride their toys on, they should very well just go out and BUY some! Then they can pay the taxes on it and put up with OTHER inconsiderate people using their rightfully owned property in undesirable ways and THEY can then deal with unfair litigation etc. etc. Funny how that all sounds like a whole lot less fun than taking advantage of someone else's property. These people seem to like the attitude, "Well, you weren't using it!". I wonder if I grabbed their snowmobile and abused it without their permission if they would have any issue with that. I would imagine they might. Why is it a different situation when rural real estate is the possession and not an over-priced and over-powered toy?

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radioman said:
compound this problem with faster and lighter snowmobiles with lots of power. mentality has it where people buy them and WANT to use all that power but no place to go but on private lands that looks WIDE open. Its a shame that snowmobles are not being used as workhorses anymore, but for entertainment only with TOO much power.
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:thumbsup: I believe the days of enjoyfull riding are, for the most part, over. At one time you could get on a machine with a group of folks and just go out and see the sites, top speed might have been 30-50mph, with average around 20-25mph. Snowmobiling {trail ridding}was originally intended for relaxation, get out in the crisp winter air and be with nature. Now it seems like, get out, go as fast as possible, be a jack___, then wonder why there are accidents. If I had a nickle for every time other riders would make jokes at my wife and me because we drove "slow" 20mph average, I'd be a millionaire.

I quess they figure if they're going fast enough accross property it doesn't count as tresspassing

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MNBobcat · Oct 22, 2010

I found out that there is an orange plastic fence called "safety fence" which is a lot cheaper than the orange plastic "snow fence". Home Depot has the safety fence for $25 for a 4 foot by 100 foot long roll. That's not too bad.

rjkobbeman · Oct 22, 2010

I grew up on dirt bikes and did many a trail ride growing up. I loved to go fast and have no issues with snowmobile riders going fast. (The whole "fast" issue is troubling to me.) What I DO have a problem with is trespassing. Whether it is ATVs, hunters, anglers, nature walkers, etc. If it isn't your property, stay out (unless you have permission of course).

One thing I have noticed a lot of is people assuming they can do on your property what you do. Meaning, if I ride my 4-wheeler (just an example, I am currently without toys -- except my tractor

) on my property, other people think they are allowed to ride their 4-wheelers on my property.

There are many things I will allow if one asks first. However, if you don't ask and just trespass, we will have problems.

Canada_CT230 · Oct 22, 2010

I know that signs like this with stop to trepassers. CAUTION: ACTIVE GUN RANGE

Otherwise...sit on your roof with the rifle.

I watched a TV show the other week and this old guys sign said, "If you believe in life after death, cross the line and find out."

RoadHogg · Oct 22, 2010

Canada_CT230 said:
I know that signs like this with stop to trepassers. CAUTION: ACTIVE GUN RANGE

Otherwise...sit on your roof with the rifle.

I watched a TV show the other week and this old guys sign said, "If you believe in life after death, cross the line and find out."

:thumbsup:

Nice to hear from another Manitoban!

merrickvilleguy · Oct 22, 2010

I've got a sled with a turbo and 140hp ... and if I get over 30 it's unusual ... I just don't see the need ... heck up here speed limit on trails is 50km/h

I see the guys going down the road at weeeeelll beyond the speed limit and all over hte trail

merrickvilleguy · Oct 22, 2010

That brings up another thing ... what happened to pre-season asking land owners if they were ok with you hunting/atving/snowmobiling ? I've had to boot a ton off my back 70 this year ... one even had the nerve to leave a note at my trail cam to tell me who he was ... how hard would it would have been to ask permission first ?

RoadHogg · Oct 22, 2010

merrickvilleguy said:
That brings up another thing ... what happened to pre-season asking land owners if they were ok with you hunting/atving/snowmobiling ? I've had to boot a ton off my back 70 this year ... one even had the nerve to leave a note at my trail cam to tell me who he was ... how hard would it would have been to ask permission first ?

It's not a matter of it being difficult. It's a matter of having respect for something owned by someone else. There are many very disrespectful people among us these days.