PTO PROBLEMS

[Travis_R]

is it boiling out.. or are you getting it in the crank case oil.

if it was a gasser I'd say look at the plugs for steam cleaning.

soundguy

It does boil some out, but stops doing so once it thinks it's "got enough" (LOL) in the radiator.
Farmwithjunk said this is normal for the Massey's with the same engine as I have...

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/...g-operating/210573-my-mf-231-running-too.html

 

[Soundguy]

yep.. fords do the same.. they boil off most of the water over the core.. then are fine.. unless you keep adding water in which case they keep boiling it off.. et

soundguy

 

[DIRTROAD]

In a "Down Flow" system, like the ones found on these tractors, the proper water level should be so that the top tank is filled about halfway up to the fill neck. This allows for the expansion due to pressurization. Since these tractors do not have an overflow tank, if they are overfilled, it will just push the excess water out onto the ground.

The reason that a radiator cap has a pressure indicator on it (ie. 16 lbs.) is because when water is pressurized it raises the boiling point. Just like when water is placed in a vacuum the boiling point is lowered.

Make sure that you are not overfilling the radiator and make sure that the radiator cap is working properly (The factory ones are junk). This should fix your problem but, If you continue to have troubles after this, you may need to adapt an overflow catch and recovery tank like modern vehicles have on them. That way if it pushes water out it can be recovered by the tractor.

 

[Travis_R]

In a "Down Flow" system, like the ones found on these tractors, the proper water level should be so that the top tank is filled about halfway up to the fill neck. This allows for the expansion due to pressurization. Since these tractors do not have an overflow tank, if they are overfilled, it will just push the excess water out onto the ground.

The reason that a radiator cap has a pressure indicator on it (ie. 16 lbs.) is because when water is pressurized it raises the boiling point. Just like when water is placed in a vacuum the boiling point is lowered.

Make sure that you are not overfilling the radiator and make sure that the radiator cap is working properly (The factory ones are junk). This should fix your problem but, If you continue to have troubles after this, you may need to adapt an overflow catch and recovery tank like modern vehicles have on them. That way if it pushes water out it can be recovered by the tractor.

Dirtroad,

Do you know if the 231 has a thermostat somewhere in the cooling system?

 

[Farmwithjunk]

Dirtroad,

Do you know if the 231 has a thermostat somewhere in the cooling system?

YES! I've worked on a couple 135 diesel years ago that weren't ever warming up all the way to operating temp. (even in hot weather. Found BOTH to have had the t-stats removed.

 

[Travis_R]

Do you think it would be a good idea to remove it and run the tractor without it??

 

[Soundguy]

no.. running without a thermostat leads to a sludged up engine.

soundguy

 

[Farmwithjunk]

no.. running without a thermostat leads to a sludged up engine.

soundguy

What he said^^^^^

Thermostats are there for a number of good reasons.

 

[Neilhikk]

I (we) have a MF 150 that the pto won`t engage? Worked fine, except for a ittle grinding when engaging, now the pto won`t engage at all? Anyone have any advice, I`m stumped. Thanks in advance for any help.