Pumping your septic tank

   / Pumping your septic tank #11  
I never even thought about having ours pumped until I started reading earlier posts on TBN. I just assumed that was something you did when you had a problem. Ours is 18 years old and never pumped and never a problem. We had 4 people in the house the 1st 10 years and only 2 since the kids moved out. My neighbors on both sides had some early problems with theirs, but they both had another builder. Once they had their lateral lines lengthened, they have not had a problem and have not pumped since. Guess I will just leave well enough alone.
 
   / Pumping your septic tank #12  
Junkman...

You made an interesting comment about hard water versus soft water? What would be the difference in effect of the sewer system? I have a whole house water softener with iron filter. I have always heard to pump about every 3 years. We built our house about 5 years ago and our septic system is based on the number bathrooms (3.5) in the house, & number of people.
 
   / Pumping your septic tank #13  
If you wait until problems appear on the surface to have it pumped, you are too late. Pumping is a preventative measure, not a repair for a failing system.

Based on the OSU extension office web site, I should have my sysyem pumped every 12.4 years. I have decided that once every four years should be my maximum interval. My system is already iffy, becuase of the water and drainage problems in my front yard, and I don't want to take a risk and wait until it's too late!
 
   / Pumping your septic tank #14  
Soft water carries the soap residue further because it will mix with the water easier than with hard water. I have learned a lot of this from a friend that is a septic engineer that designs sewage treatment plants all over the country. He started out doing homes, then small communities, and now he does larger projects. One of the problems that I already see within this thread is what I call the "ostrich policy". I haven't had a problem so far, so if I do nothing that is better than doing something, like having the system pumped. You can't hurt your system by having it pumped once a year, you can definitely hurt the system if you don't have it pumped ever. It is like the person that says, why should I drive slower, I haven't gotten caught for speeding in years. The longer you go, the greater the odds of problems. It never ceases to amaze me about how people determine priorities. They will spend $15000 on a tractor and then want to find the cheapest oil or filter for that tractor. There have been times when I will play devils advocate to see who I can draw out of the woods with that type of thinking, but no one ever points out what I have just mentioned. Maintenance doesn't cost, it saves. This principle applies to all aspects of life. If you want to live longer, then take care of your body. If you want the tractor to last, take care of it. Same for the septic system, but unlike the other two examples, the septic system is a "out of sight, out of mind" type of item. If it doesn't stare you in the face every day, you don't think about it.
One final thought, if you have a water softener, then don't put the rinse water into your septic system. I am not certain why, but the local Health District for our area sent out notices a while back indicating that there were a large number of system failures as a result of this practice. They recommended a separate dry well for the water softener discharge water rather than down the septic system drain.
 
   / Pumping your septic tank #15  
Hope this is easier on the eyes junkster!!! /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif

Water softeners generally just use salt...THe biggestproblem a tank will have r jist as junk said... fats,and detergents,..If you can plumb git down in yer crawlspace,cellar and try to figure out if u kin git rid of yer grey water elsewhere...outside of yer house dig a 6' or so deep pit {deppends on yer frost line} and fill it with gravel so that the grey water goes somewhere besides yer tank...When i lived in alabama all the houses in my neighborhood includin my 2 houses [on the same street] were military housing built in the early 50's were having problems because of the clay pipes and their longterm decay...it always depends on yer ph levels...and ground water levels..as far as clay pipe decay goes....
if yer system was built in the past 20 years then because of the newer technologies ie: plastic,and the better design of the field systems.... u stand a much better chance of good drainage...
As i said b4 the biggest problems almost always start with the health of yer tank ...if yer usin Cheer ...STOP.....dig up yer access door and jist look at the floating 2 to 3 inches of undisslolved powder...almost all soaps use a fat base!!! we make our own out of beef lard and the natural fats break down much easier than the synthetic fats used today in most non biodegradable soaps ...even so my grey water runs into a pit that drains into our secondary pond...MIND U ONE THING!!!..the good ol epa frowns on this immensely...
ALL THE LAWS AIMED AT HOUSEHOLD LIQUID WASTE r aimed at housing in lots of larger population bases and homes near bodies of water ..if i lived neear a lake , water reservoir,i wouldnt do this,...but on the otherhand there is a growing number of towns all across the U.S. R TRYING TO MOVE TO MORE[ sorry gin junkster /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif] natural means of the breakdown of liquid waste produced by smaller towns..using natural fats in yer soaps and the use of special bacteria and plants such as cattails, estuaries can b built that will completely break down everything b4 they reenter nature...I personally love nature and the like but i sure as heck am not wanting big brother 2 take care of it 4 me with their sweepjing laws and final "JUSTICE" and political correctedness...WE ALL have to take care of our own little ecosystems {back yards} and teach and encourage our fellow neighbors to do so /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

p.s. by makin our own soap we spent less than 10 bucks last year and we still have {jist a min lemme check} 15 bars of soap left!!!! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
My better half made that BATCH LAST MAY!!!
gimme a holler if u want her recipe .....its easy as pie...oops i mean soap....

take care
TODD

P.S. HOPE YER EYES R FEELIN BETTA JUNKSTER /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
   / Pumping your septic tank #16  
Gary

As RobS said, even in the best systems scum will form and accumulate. I consider it cheap insurance to have the tank pumped every two or three years. If you never have the tank pumped you will not know if there is a problem until you have a failure. Kinda like saying that I have 60,000 miles on my car and I have never changed the oil. It runs , so I'm going to leave well enough alone.

Another thing to consider is putting a filter on your washing machine outlet. Todays clothes are mostly synthetic fiber. The tiny fibers that break off and get washed out to your leach field do not readily break down and will eventually clog your filter bed.

RonL
 
   / Pumping your septic tank #17  
15 bars left? How many did you start with?? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Egon
 
   / Pumping your septic tank #18  
I know for a fact my last home hand not been pumed since it was built in 1977 up until I sold in 23yrs later. It originally belonged to my wifes family.
When we sold it, the new owner insisted we have it cleaned. The septic folks told my wife it realy didn't seem to need it based on how every they measure it. told her it seemed to have just the right levels ov sludge in the bottum and such. Said he'd been cleaning them for over 10yrs. So I hope he would know. Said he was glad to have the work but who ever installed it must have been a perfectionest. It did not realy need it. About flipped when she told him it had never been cleaned.

Keep in mind it had a family of 4 to 6 in it for at least 16 of those years....

So I would say the install is more important....
But who knows /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif I did mention this the fellow installing the one at my new house. He said it does happen on rare occasion, that one is in just the perfect setup and not abused by chemicals and such. He even told me not to bother the new one unless it started giving trouble.

I guess I'll wait and see. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif or should that be smell /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
 
   / Pumping your septic tank #19  
What goes into the tank is what comes out of the homes occupants. Guess that they were a really clean living family!! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif You might say that their ---- was better than anyone elses!! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
   / Pumping your septic tank #20  
May as well put my experiece in here also. I built my house in 1976. In 1995 we had the tank pumped just for the heck of it. The Honey Wagon driver said and I do mean said "That was a good waste of money. Call me again if it gets like that again" The tank had 1 inch of scum on the top and about the same on the bottom. My kids at that time were 10 and 12 years old. Last year we had a backup and I called the Honey Wagon again. I figured that it couldn't possibly be filled up with crap (pun). It wasn't even as bad as the last time. The problem was my wife and here passion for toilet paper lately. There was a long wad of collected toilet paper from the inside of the tank right up into the pipe blocking it. It was a clump about 16 inches long and 8-10 inches in diameter. It looked more like a missile. I figured since I had the tank open, we may as well pump it out again. The guy just smiled as he took my money. Most system failures are because of the soap you use and pouring bacon fat or any other types of fat down the drain. Always use bio-degrable soaps. One other note of mention is to install a "T" fitting at the exit pipe of your tank with a 12"-16" extension that goes down into the tank. This will keep any solids from leaving the tank unless you get really loaded up in the tank. My Honey Wagon guy told me this. He installs these on any tank that has a crumbling seperator wall inside the tank. I did this to mine also.
 

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