Ballast Question about weights

[Tim_in_IA]

That Skurka guy is really picky sometimes

I know what you mean! But he seems to know what he is talking about though.

 

[knute_m]

Maybe I'll be comparing apples (red Mahindras) to banannas (yellow Cub Cadets). But, to the best of my knowledge a Cub Cadet 7200 is virtually the same tractor as a Mahindra 2015 4WD, and a Cub Cadet 7260 is virtually the same as a Mahindra 2615 4WD.

From their respective web sites (MTD Products and Mahindra USA):

The specs for the Cub Cadet 7200 shows a weight of 1819 lbs.
The spec sheet for Mahindra 2015 4WD shows a weight of 1819 lbs.

The spec sheet for a Cub Cadet 7260 shows a weight of 2315 lbs.
The spec sheet for a Mahindra 2615 4WD shows a weight of 2315 lbs.

Knute

 

[Tim_in_IA]

knute_m,

You mean Cub Cadet is doing it to!! It's a conspiracy!!! ha ha!

Sorry, just having a little fun

 

[fish_wisperer]

I read today that Mahindra includes a front weight block and wheel weights in the "tractor weight" specification of all the brochures. Can anyone verify this? Seems the weight advantage of Mahindra machines maybe way overstated.

i apoligize if im wrong, but arent you that kubota dealer that often posts on this mahindra site cutting down mahindra? i really cant remember for sure but your screen name looks familiar, i think ive seen this funny buisness before. if you have any questions about weight and stability test drive a mahindra in the same class "hp and frame size" as another brand. what i found,,,"and i was looking at full ag tractors",was the case jx series were the only ones comparable around hear but they were much more expencive.

 

[MessickFarmEqu]

i apoligize if im wrong, but arent you that kubota dealer that often posts on this mahindra site cutting down mahindra?

Yea, I'd probably be that guy, but I'd hate to think I have a reputation for cutting anything down, I just tend to point out the numbers. Infact, we are a dealer of the Cub Cadet compacts which are made by Mahindra/Mitsubishi. I'm just asking for validation of somthing I'm being told. Could one of the Mahindra dealers check the bill of lading for some of the machines and see if its inline with the marketing materials? That would be an easy way to check.

 

[Dargo]

...arent you that kubota dealer that often posts on this mahindra site cutting down mahindra?

I think posts like that create some biased issues. I'm a pretty big Mahindra fan and, when I've made some posts here asking questions, I've been attacked as being "anti-Mahindra". If you really want to turn people off to a brand, just create the atmosphere where someone is attacked if they just ask questions. Because of the attitudes like what you are exibiting, if I do buy a Mahindra, I likely won't admit it for fear of being associated with the paranoid crowd that acts like they are hiding something or that they over react because they are sensitive about what they bought because of doubts.

 

[BobG_in_VA]

I haven't looked at the specs lately but my 6000 4wd with the FEL weighs in at over 8000 lbs. Why would I care if the 242 lbs were included as suitcase weights? Oh, I had about 1400 lbs of fluid put in the rears as well....don't need no stinkin' weights....BobG in VA

 

[DavesTractor]

Yea, I'd probably be that guy, but I'd hate to think I have a reputation for cutting anything down, I just tend to point out the numbers. Infact, we are a dealer of the Cub Cadet compacts which are made by Mahindra/Mitsubishi. I'm just asking for validation of somthing I'm being told. Could one of the Mahindra dealers check the bill of lading for some of the machines and see if its inline with the marketing materials? That would be an easy way to check.

Neil,
I've not weighed the India based 00, 20 and 25 models, but I can verify that the 15 series and 10 series weights are as listed and do not include wheel and bumper weights. I have over 300 of the 15 series in stock as we distibute for the west coast, so we know what they weigh for sure.

Although I often take issue with your anti-Mahindra comments, I think on this post you are asking a fair question and asking it in a fair manner. I appreciate that.

 

[knute_m]

I almost hate to post again on this thread.

I guess I'm kind of like a home for wayward tractors. I could be doing dogs, cats, wolves, birds -- but I provide a home for wayward tractors.

There are tractors I like better than others, but except for a miserable few made since about 1955, the vast majority are really good. Like ugly dogs or moody cats, there is always somebody who will come to the aid of even the nastiest critter -- and they'll love it till it dies.

Today's tractors are all so good, it is up to the potential buyer to decide what makes them happy -- and weight is just one thing.

I currently have two orphaned machines in the yard.

One is a major name brand 30 hp machine. I consider it just rude. It reminds me of Gilbert Godfried, the loudmouth comedian. It has a hydro transmission. It runs at the top of its lungs. I bushhogged with it for about three hours yesterday. It did a great job. This afternoon I thought I'd use it to pop a stump on the way back from the barn to the house. I love the easy non-shift forward-reverse. What a dud. The tires just spun. Just to see if it was me or the tractor, I went back and got my 20 hp Mahindra and popped the stump first try.

I've also got a larger 45 hp machine. It is really nice, but much larger than I need for what I do. It has a shuttle shift. I moved and stacked a few logs with it yesterday. It is a nice machine, but it is just way too big for what I do. Does this color machine weigh more than a different color machine? I don't know. It is a nice tractor, but it is not for me.

I guess I'm try to say that the consumer will decide what is important. A few might be color blind. A few might be nationalistic. Some might be novices now, but they won't be in a couple of years.

Salesman can tell all the stories they want. The consumer will buy what they want.

Let's not let this thread make enemies out of friends.

Knute.

 

[MessickFarmEqu]

Neil,
I've not weighed the India based 00, 20 and 25 models, but I can verify that the 15 series and 10 series weights are as listed and do not include wheel and bumper weights. I have over 300 of the 15 series in stock as we distibute for the west coast, so we know what they weigh for sure.

Although I often take issue with your anti-Mahindra comments, I think on this post you are asking a fair question and asking it in a fair manner. I appreciate that.

Thanks Dave. Any way to check the Indian models? The Mitsubishi's are your biggest sellers right?