Mowing Question on mowing 5 acres

   / Question on mowing 5 acres #11  
If it's flat, nothing beats a ZTR for speed and cut. Not that Kubota doesn't make good stuff, but it's your loss if you only look at Kubota and ignore the rest. I have a Ferris IS3000 that is fantastic and there are plenty of other great mowers as well. I'd look at all of your options including Kubota.
 
   / Question on mowing 5 acres #12  
I traded my Toro zero turn 60" deck for a BX2360 a few weeks ago. I cut a total of 3.5 to 4 acres a week. Maybe a little more if my neighbor down the road doesn't get the PTO fixed on their tractor soon. With those 4 or so acres it takes be about 30 or 45 mins longer to do with the BX. The time wasn't as bad as I thought. I do have a few obstacles to cut around such as trees, a pool, and fences. I cut in high gear.

For just mowing in my opinion nothing beats a dedicated mower. Either a zero turn or a front mount. My Toro would cut as fast as it could go as long as the grass wasn't too tall and the terrain was flat.

I bought the BX with intentions of using it for other reasons than mowing.

If I was cutting grass on the side like I was when I first bought my zero turn (10 to 12 yards a week) there is no way I would be happy with the BX. An extra 10 or 15 mins I spend on each yard would have slowed me down and I would have to work longer days or evenings after I got off of work.

I would try the BX first a few times. If it takes longer than you like then maybe borrow or demo a zero turn.
 
   / Question on mowing 5 acres #13  
Any reason you can't let some of that lawn go natural or something that doesn't require mowing? That's a ton of mowing to do...

That's probably the best suggestion yet. Work on reseeding the whole darn thing with Pearl's Premium grass (formulated for New England climate) - and reduce your mowing requirements down to maybe once a month once it fully takes hold.

In the meantime - rig up something like a mid mount mower - and pull two Swisher mowers behind you on either side to get a wider cut on every pass.
 
   / Question on mowing 5 acres #14  
Leave your mid-mount mower on - and pull one of these off to each side of the tractor. You'd have 180 inches of total mowing width:

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   / Question on mowing 5 acres #15  
Just curious what you have a 5 acre lawn for? I know you get year round rain back there, so it would not be the irrigation water hog like it would be here in N. Calif.

I would be nostalgic, and put a big woods belly mower on a Farmall Super-A :D
 
   / Question on mowing 5 acres #16  
I mowed our 6 acres with a craftsman 42" garden tractor pulling a trail mower just like the one in the picture jim_wilson posted. That gave me 9' of cutting width but the field is so rough it beat me and the trail mower to pieces. When I got enough money I bought the B2710 and pulled a 5' bush hog with the 5' trail mower offset behind the hog. That works great but is hard on the trail mower because of the roughness. I'm surprised it has not fallen apart. I also have a Toro 60" ZTR and it does a much better job on the 1 acre that is relatively smooth but is unuseable on the rest because it's too rough. I now use it just to do the fence line and around the trees.

If I were you I'd rent or borrow a few different implements before you buy. You can't imagine what something is like until you actually try it.
 
   / Question on mowing 5 acres #17  
I've done it all. ZT , belly mower (Kubota), and 3 pt rear mower. To me, ZT is the toughest on the body -- if you get any ground speed it's a really bumpy ride. The belly mower (I used a 72") is easier to maneuver around trees, but you'll be surprised how well you'll learn to mow with the rear mower. I'm now doing my 10+ acre yard with a New Holland 30 hp and an 84" Bush Hog finish mower. Takes about 4 hours to knock it out, the quality of the cut is better than the belly, and the discharge is to the rear instead of flying back into my face from the mid-side discharge. The only downside to the very wide mower is following contours without scalping. I added the anti-scalping roller, which really helps in a couple of my rolling spots. But, everything has some trade-off -- the more flat land, the wider cut you can tolerate. Lots of undulations, better go more narrow.
 
   / Question on mowing 5 acres #18  
I have 7+ acres to finish mow. For the flats - about 5 acres - I use a 72" Sitrex-180 3-pt finish mower behind my JD5225 tractor. It's effective but slow: 4.5 to 6.5 mph, depending on the gear I'm in. Then I clean up with a JD LX188 17hp lawn tractor with a 48" deck. The rest of the mowing is on a hillside ranging from 12 degrees up to 25 degrees of slope. I use the LX188 on that. I'd save time if I mowed the flats with a ZTR, and I am considering getting one. But from what I've learned, a ZTR is not a good choice for mowing on my hill.
 
   / Question on mowing 5 acres #19  
It really does depend, but consider this... a ZTR is purpose designed for mowing grass. I have a 72" Exmark ZTR that is rated to mow 6 acres per hour. That would be on flat, even ground where you could go full speed - as a couple folks have mentioned it can get a bit bumpy on a ZTR at speed. If you haven't cleared and leveled your ground you won't be able to go anywhere near that fast. I've leveled most of my grounds and mow about 6 acres in around 3 hours.

The best way to mow fast is to get one of the larger mowers, like this: <http://www.toro.com/en-us/Golf/Mowers/Rough/Pages/Model.aspx?pid=Groundsmaster-4100-D> The Toro 4100 would probably be my first choice if money were no object, but these things get really expensive new. You can sometimes find them used at a surprisingly reasonable cost, but unless you can handle maintenance yourself operating costs are still pretty high. However, they're really fun, fast, deliver an awesome cut and can handle surprisingly rough terrain. The diesel versions are Kubota powered, which is true for a lot of commercial turf equipment.

It comes down to money, really. If you already have a tractor, that's the most cost effective way to go because despite a good mowing attachment's cost you still have only one piece of equipment to maintain. Don't rule out getting a lawn / garden tractor with a large deck - those can work pretty well and when you start looking at the cost of a deck for a tractor you're probably in the same neighborhood. Attachment manufacturers don't have the economy of scale in manufacturing that the residential mowers do which is why a specialized mower deck costs so much more than a roughly equivalent residential deck. Mower decks are somewhat different in construction as far as gauge of steel and such but really all any of them are is a steel frame with a blade held in a spindle, turned by a belt (except commercial hydraulic mowers). Not rocket science and when you consider cost, the residential stuff is cheaper even though it won't last as long.

Anyway, the big factors are speed and size. The faster you can go and the bigger the deck, the less time it takes. If you can go fast, get a specialized mower with a really high blade tip speed and you'll get it done in the least time. If you have to go slower, get the biggest deck you can. Cutting grass is just a blade whacking it off and unless you're really diligent about keeping your blades sharp you're just "bludgeoning" the grass (think weed eater with a really big, metal line) so brush hog vs. finish mower quality of cut is often similar.

Eventually you'll try all sorts of things and it'll come down to personal preference. Don't forget that most equipment dealers (especially the landscape suppliers) have demo models so you can and should be able to try something out to see if you like it. Lots of people get a ZTR and they scare the !@#$ out of themselves, because on a hill they can get quite squirrelly. Don't fork out that kind of cash without trying first!
 
   / Question on mowing 5 acres #20  
But from what I've learned, a ZTR is not a good choice for mowing on my hill.

It can be done, but it is often a "don't try this at home, kids" proposition. I mow a couple of really steep slopes with my ZTR... sideways is OK - with the big deck on the ground the center of gravity is so low it would be tough to flip... tend to slide first. Up is usually just fine, pushing the deck, but down can be an adventure when the deck pulls you along, wheels slipping. Have to remember to keep them moving forward to regain traction :).

One of my neighbors tried a ZTR and decided it was crazy to use on the hills, got rid of it. Kept noticing how fast I mowed my pasture and tried one again. At first she crawled along but as she gained experience got faster and loves it now. Purpose built mowers have really big decks and a really low COG that keeps them from tipping (well, it really helps - you can tip just about anything). Sliding is another matter, but can usually be managed. It's like dirt track racing... or ice racing. :-D
 

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