Question on PT180's

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PJ, We use the PTs in our business and at our home, barn & "gentlemen farm" (that is not for profit, fun only).
I am not sure if the comment from another post was intended for me (are you back in the business!!!), but let me state this. I have been in business since my mid twenties, and now run several corporations, in construction, landscaping, fencing, distribution, warehousing and engineering. I bought my first home computor only a few weeks ago and have been trying different search engines and I came across this sight, and was delighted to find others were talking about Power Trac experences. Please understand that I do not know all the web "shorthand", so I may be addressing my comments in the wrong place. You see, I grew up on a farm many years ago and studed engineering when slide rules were used, although computors are used in our business I am and old dog trying to learn a new trick.
About 5 or 6 years ago while trying to get a local dealer to repair a piece of equipiment I realized I knew more about mechanics and hydraulics than the dealer did so I repaired the thing myself. A frend came by and I was telling him my story and he told me that he traded in a skid steer, farm tractor and small dozer with post drivers for a new Power Trac PT1850 with post driver and could drive more post with less people than with all three machines. Since I am only about 2 hours from Tazewell, he called ahead and we drove over on Saturday and met with Chris & Ed. I liked what I saw and could not believe how simple and straight forward the designs were. All the things I have designed, making it simple is the hardest. I also like the idea of buying direct from the people that design and build the eq. along with the knowing my input would be considered in future design changes. Ed explained that all suggestions are cataloged and each tractor and attachment are run back thru research and development every 3 to 5 years and all suggestions considered, some used and some disguarded. While there he showed me test being run on wet brakes, remote servo pumps, radio control machines, horsepower limit controls, joystick control articulated machines without steering wheels. I was impressed with their management and design ability and realize the prices are kept low thru good purchasing practices of buying in qty and direct from the manufactor and trim production procedures. After buying a PT1850, post driver, bucket, flail and rough cut mower, I sold all my other small equipment and to date our companies have bought 4 other machines and lots of attachments. Many of the things being tested when we were there are now on production machines. Our people have not had any problems getting parts or making the repairs themselves. We plan to buy 2 or 3 more machines in the future.
Someone commented that people at Power Trac were difficult, querky, and hard to deal with. I found just the opposite, shy, independent, determined, honist, well educated, forward thinking country people who worked hard, loved God, thier country and families. Granted some of you want changes made instantly and they resist, some demand things and they resist, thats not the way country people operate, they are too independet to be pushed around. Give ideas as suggestions not demands.
I have changed some of my operation after visiting Power Trac, we buy more direct, make all repairs in house, and experment with new materials and procdures, which have improved our profits. I hope to visit Power Trac again some day, my people tell me they are continuing to grow, building a new office & showroom, added new service and R&D shop and starting to add production space. It pleases me to see American companies grow.
Still hoping the children and grandchildren will take over the day to day operation of our business, and allow me to build toys and play in the dirt.
Thats my two cents worth!!!
EB
 
   / Question on PT180's #12  
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I am not sure if the comment from another post was intended for me (are you back in the business!!!), but let me state this. I have been in business since my mid twenties, and now )</font>

i think we met, if you care to correspond see my e-mail address under my profil.

thanks hans
 
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EB
Thank you for sharing your experiences and common sense approach. I enjoyed reading your post very much especially the part of the Power Trac family in Tazewell. I also visited the great people at Power Trac and then spent another two days touring the countryside enjoying the beauty and history. As you will see on past posts as well as future posts I along with many others are very passionate about our PT tractors. We do not consider ourselves to be on the cutting edge of new technology or trying to be different. We do recognize the quality of Power Trac tractors and attachments.
I plan on visiting the great people at Power Trac again when they move into their new facility. I feel very much like a member of a special family, both hear on TBN and also as an owner of a Power Trac tractor.
Again thank you for your excellent post, I hope we will hear from you often.
PJ
 
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Wow. This is my first post. I've been eagerly reading this forum for about two or three weeks after learning about Power-Trac equipment in the lawn and garden tractor forum at gardenweb. It's funny because before then, that was the first time I had heard of Power-Trac. And someone had just posted a link, I think to help out someone else that had posted the usual question: "What should I buy for my needs?" There was maybe one follow up that provided the link to MR's sight. But me being the curious type I clicked through both links.

I looked at just about everything on MR's site. Man, impressive machines or what? The way I look at the PT's is that they are really the Dremel tools of the tractor world. The fact that they're build in the U.S. and by a small company is also really cool. I highly doubt my little JD L130 lawn tractor was built on this continent!

For the 1.5 acres that we purchased last year I'm not ready to buy a PT yet. When we bought this place it was to aclimatize us to a more rural lifestyle. The goal is to get a much larger property in a few years. So with that in mind I bought something to cut the grass and haul a utility trailer figuring by the time I have more land and would make better use of bigger equipment there will be better equipment to be had. A couple of my neighbors went out on bought Kubota and John Deere compact tractors with front end loaders. Watching the guy across the street with his Kubota being cool and everything has been novel. It's clear to me that he's not very handy nor has he ever used heavy equipment of any sort before. The thing about these little tractors though is I wonder if they can really dig. How useful is that rather tiny bucket on the FEL? And that is what has made me skeptical about those things.

For the same price you can get a PT-425 with several attachments. Or a PT-422 with even more attachments. To me that translates into more than just a cost savings, it means that these things will grow with you as your needs change. And I like that. Can you get forks for a CUT? Or one of those boom mowers that would be perfect for cutting the grass on that annoying part of the property that has to be maintained according to the VDOT (Virginia Dept. of Transportation) regulations -- that is, the ditch beside the road.

I don't know about the PT-180. But looking at these things I doubt you could go wrong with the 180 if you were considering a small garden tractor in its place. I had considered the PT-422 but with a hill in the back I wonder if I'll run out of power (better wheel motors in the 425 apparently) and besides, I hate the feeling of "Should I have bought the bigger one?" two years down the road.

I would be concerned with the lack of a service manual and/or parts list and diagram though. But then I guess there aren't that many parts on these things anyway. As for maintenance, I'm the type of guy that maintained the cars, motorcycles, atv's, and every other mechanical thing in the family for the past twenty plus years so I look at this as more of a hobby fun thing not a drag. If you don't want to get dirty you probably shouldn't own any sort of tractor anyway, hire someone.

So maybe in a year or so I'll be able to make one of those posts: "Just picked up the PT-425, with the new Kohler 30HP liquid cooled engine, 8ft lift height, and even bigger wheel motors!" /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif Of course, those specs are mine not theirs. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Oh, one more thing. Everyone post more pix please.
 
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Welcome to TBN! /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

By the time you buy one, maybe it will be the PT430LC? /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 
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By the time you buy one, maybe it will be the PT430LC? /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif )</font>

Doh! You're right. I forgot to bump up the model number for a new engine size!!
 
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I was in the same position as you are now about two years ago. Then I decided the heck with it and bought the whole works. Best decision I ever made even though I may have not needed it for another year or so.
You will find projects you never knew a tractor could handle to make your life easier. The fun of working your Power Trac in the yard and having people stop to ask what it is will make your day.
You mention that you will have the need in a short time, go for it and get it now and your life will be better for it.
You need to go back into earlier posts "mini hoe project"; you will see what the small bucket can do. Only time is needed for a project of that size.
PJ
 
   / Question on PT180's #18  
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EB
Do you have the trencher for the 425? I am thinking getting a trencher and would appreciate any comments you my have.
PJ
 
   / Question on PT180's #19  
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PJ
Sorry no trencher on my 425, however we have a trencher on the 1430. It does a good job and with the large teeth that comes on PT trenchers, digs real fast. The ditch filler works well also, fills and cleans surface under dirt in one pass. I think the trencher on the 425 is built with same parts only shorter, maybe 3'. I expect it would do a good job also.
EB
 
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When demoing at Tazewell I watched Scott run the trencher on the 425. The soil was very clean so it went very easy at good depth. I suspect it should do well in my soil as well. My dilemma is that I can rent a trencher for 75 dollars (4 hours) but the needs look like about 7 days of work with the new project. This makes the purchase look more inviting.
PJ
 

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