questions about moving emplement pins

[clemsonfor]

Yes deep you will have to readjust your arms for things like box blade or plows that you may want to fall lower to engage the ground more, like a disk harrow that you want to run as deep as possible. Go to that top hole then adjust the twist link to level it on the other side. Your tail wheel looks a little low as well see if there is not a hole to pick it up an inch or so. I would get the longer top link from agrisupply. GEt the 13'' one it will be $1 cheaper than buying the 16" one from TSC which is a little to long for our small tractors with closer implements anyway. The Agrisupply 13" toplink Cat 1 should be like $23.99 shipped to your house (around $15 for it then like $7 to ship or something that makes the math work?). Your thumb screw may have vibrated off the 3pt control mine will get loose if i dont tighten it down after use. You can get like a 1/4 bolt about 1/2 long with a wing nut and a few washers to do the same thing. If your valve on the 3 pt is bypassing or your cyl is leaky it will still leak down and you will have to pull it up every so often to get the level right. Trust me you can do what you want with the adjustments i have said.

 

[deepNdirt]

I'm not sure I completely understand, so forgive me if I'm making the wrong assumptions. As far as leveling the cutter, I would think a longer top link would solve the problem. As far as the cutter sitting too low, that's the part I really can't understand. Are you wanting the cutter the sit at a certain height with the 3ph completely lowered? When you drop the 3ph all the way, the cutter should be sitting on the ground, at least every one I've ever seen has. You will raise the 3ph to the desired cutting height.

lengthening the top link only makes the part it connects to swivel even more so, Yes I think if this part was stationary positioned and adjusting the top link extended would keep the front from dropping,.................
let me ask if it is normal for the lift arms to be within a few inches from the ground while no implements are attached? Mine are...

 

[California]

normal for the lift arms to be within a few inches from the ground while no implements are attached?

Sure. But you can adjust that minimum distance by moving the stop shown in Verleih-Nix's photo.

 

[deepNdirt]

Sure. But you can adjust that minimum distance by moving the stop shown in Verleih-Nix's photo.

Okay, I'll try this tomorrow, I never realized how far down the arms go, I guess because having the FEL I always keep something heavy on the rear, and when changing the implements I start lowering the arms to the point of hookup and never pay attention to how far down they can actually go,
........... can anyone explain why this cutter has the swiveling device on the top of the A-frame? if it has no great benefit and all else fails I think I can weld this thing so it no longer moves and Maybe just maybe! I can gain more control of the height adjustments at front,

 

[winston1]

The swiveling devise is to allow your tail wheel to have a floating effect. If the front of your tractor goes down quickly the devise will allow the rear of the mower to remain on the ground. Your front height adjustment is completely dependent on your lift arm position. If properly adjusted, when you lower your mower the rear wheel should contact the ground first and before the front is at your desired height. As you continues to lower the front you will see the swivel devise fold over causing the rear of the mower to completely be supported by the tail wheel. When you reach your desired front height you need to set your control handle stop. Naturally, the top link can be adjusted to control how much rear float you want.

 

[normde2001]

Okay, I'll try this tomorrow, I never realized how far down the arms go, I guess because having the FEL I always keep something heavy on the rear, and when changing the implements I start lowering the arms to the point of hookup and never pay attention to how far down they can actually go,
........... can anyone explain why this cutter has the swiveling device on the top of the A-frame? if it has no great benefit and all else fails I think I can weld this thing so it no longer moves and Maybe just maybe! I can gain more control of the height adjustments at front,

The only purpose of the toplink is to lift the implement. it should be adjusted so the swivel link is verticle. My lower arms have a small chain attached to keep them out of the tires with no implement attached.

 

[tommu56]

On a ford finish mower I use to use they had check chains from the front of the top link down to the front of the mower to stop from lowering it too far
They had key holed flat plates that went on either side of the top link pin on the outside and you puled chain up and set it n the slot to adjust the front height and move the rear wheel to get the rear height correct

tom

 

[normde2001]

I have those also, came from valu-bilt.com, but I don't find them listed anymore.

 

[deepNdirt]

my tractor does still have the adjustment screw at the lever, although when tightening down on it all it does is causes the lever to become restrictive and a bit more difficult to position, and will not allow the kickoff to work properly,
as were before when using the lever in all up position when lifting an implement when it reach full lift it would kick back the lever off and back to center position, si what I need to do is add a screw to the front side of the lever control to give it a positive stopping point? rather than having the lever move all the way forward and having to pull back up to make height adjustments..... as is I can set the lever at a positing to keep the front of the cutter level and run about 20 ft. and found it had dropped on to the ground, kind have to keep feathering it back up again, this is the only implement that does this way, when using the Box scrape I can usually set it at the height needed and it stay in place until lifting the lever, it seems as though it has something to do with just how low the arms go below a certain point, ..... like for instance the Boxes scrape pins are approx 15" while set dead flat on the ground so is the Pulverizer implement, the Bush hog pins are 12 1/2 inches dead flat on the ground,..... so the way I see it is when using the box I'll raise it another 1 inch to do a flat drag having it a normal using height of 16" to the pins.... the cuter will have to be raise level for normal use 14" to the pins this is between the area of which I have to keep feathering it, Now I can raise it on up another 2 inches the rear wheel of the cutter just kind of floats but the lift will stay put in this position but I don't get a very low cut,....... sorry if any confusion but I hope y'all fallow me

 

[clemsonfor]

Yea i think you got it now deep. I kind of followed that half crazy description all jumbled togeather about your implements. :confused2::confused2:

The arms will only go as low as the implement will let it when set on the ground, say unless you hang them off in a hole behind your tractor then the arms will go to full droop like when nothing is on them. What this means is when your boxblade is raised some of your pull on the lever will not do anything to the BB height. Or in other words the bushhog will start lifting soooner than the BB in the range of motion on the 3pt lever, just because the pins on the hog are lower than the bb pins.

You are correct though that screw your adjusting is just the friction thing that keeps the lever in place where you set it and to keep the movement down from vibrations. There is a second little thumbe screw and plate that should be on the lower side of the lever (down position side of it) that will allow you to find your hight you like the hog to be at then you slide it up to the 3 pt lever position and then tighten it down so your 3 point lever will now stop at this stop, it will not fall below this point untill you loosen this screw stop thingy. That is unless your valve is by passing or you 3 pt may drift down from leaky seals.
-nate

if i rembember i ll get a pic if no one else hase on of this.