Questions about remotes

[jinman]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Jim,
So you arre saying 3 factory remotes (less installation cost) will be cheaper than say a 3 spool Prince SV valve with hoses and fittings. I don't think so. /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

My comment was that the do-it-yourself setup would be a few hundred dollars cheaper but not look as integrated as the factory setup. I would always vote for the factory setup but not everyone can afford the extra few hunderd bucks.
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Mad, I would sure say you are right about the cost of the Prince 3-spool valve, but you can't drive around with that sitting in your lap with hoses running off everywhere. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif (wry humor intended) You have to mount it somewhere convenient and plumb it into your system. By the time you do that, there will be significant additional cost of materials and time for all those things I mentioned before. I've seen guys wrestle with their own home-brew setups for months before they get a satisfactory setup. Essentially, I believe the cost of that Prince valve could be the beginnings of a money pit nightmare for someone less skilled than yourself.

My point is that with the spending of $950 and 1-1/2 hours, almost anyone can step back and have a perfect three remote setup on their Class III Boomer. It may take a little longer on some of the other Boomers. I cannot remember ever seeing anyone complete a setup on any Boomer that is different from the factory setup, have you? If you can spend $24k on a tractor, surely $500-$725-$950 more for 1-2-3 remotes is within your budget.

 

[JerryG]

<font color="blue"> What is your investment in tools to put the fittings on the hoses so they don't leak? </font>
Teach,
I don't know what tools you are talking about? I have put hydraulics on equipment for years and the most exotic wrench that you need is one that fits the hoses. A couple of crescents will do. Like Mad said the whole set up could easily be 50% less expensive.

 

[daTeacha]

I replied to this earlier, but apparently didn't get it posted.

Jim, I thought you were making up your own hoses. I can do the plumbing aspects of the job, but getting the fittings on the hoses is not something I have the tools for. The other thing that caused me to let dealer do it is that I want a very neat tucked in fitting of all hoses. The dealership does a lot of hydraulic work, including making their own hoses. Since I'm running this to the demountable grapple cylinder that will be in the center of the bucket, I want all the hoses and fittings as sheltered and protected as possible. If I did it as a first effort with hydraulics, I'd probably get some too short and some too long and have to use the hydraulic equivalent of the Amish beam stretcher or buy another set of hoses. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

I talked with them about running the lines through flexible electrical conduit and then putting the fittings on the ends as an extra measure of protection out where the lines will be likely to get tangled in the brush piles, and they're looking into the feasibility of it. I don't know if the conduit will have enough flex for this application, though.

I'm probably being paranoid, but I can picture a line getting caught up in a branch and being torn or punctured, which would be less than fun.

 

[MadReferee]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I talked with them about running the lines through flexible electrical conduit )</font>

My dozer's two clamshell bucket hoses, the ones from the loader arms to the clam, are enclosed in some type of flexible steel conduit. It is still the original from 1963, a little rusted, but the hoses are ok. I would say the conduit works for extreme usage conditions where the hoses are subject to constant abrasion.

 

[JerryG]

<font color="blue"> but getting the fittings on the hoses is not something I have the tools for. </font>
Anyone that wants to make their own hoses a home can without expensive presses, tools etc. There are fittings that are referred to as reusable fittings that can be installed on hoses with only hand tools. They are a little more expensive, but can be transferred to new hose when needed.