Quick attachment system

   / Quick attachment system #21  
PaPow,
I understand what you are saying. I'm not looking for arguing points, just exactly what these other SSQA attachments are that maybe I could use on a BX. I think you answered my question that there are none... at least for the little BX. There is not nearly enough weight to the BX to loft some attachment designed for a skid steer with a substantial amount more lifting capacity and mass behind the loader. This is further supported by the lack of hydraulic flow, which I think you misunderstood.
The BX has enough flow to move the loader or 3 point when tached up (at an idle it's useless with its single pump). What the BX does not have is enough hydro flow to operate an SSQA-mounted log splitter, posthole auger, backhoe, etc. which goes back to what I believe the answer is to my question. There are no useful SSQA attachments designed for a much more capable skid steer that gives the SSQA a real advantage over something like Jery's, other than the a mere few seconds to flip two SSQA levers over Jery's flip locks and two retainer pins.
Again, no argument, just what appears to be facts.
I agree with everything you say on your need for the SSQA. I have the front loader blade for my BX, and I tried it for last winter. I get drifted constantly, but since I bought my blower 3 years ago, I've used it ONCE. Prior, I used a rear blade and the loader. Frankly, I found the loader-mounted blade almost useless on pavement, as it required rear ballast for traction, so I mounted the rear blower in anticipation of the big snow I could use it with. I was then forced to use the loader-mounted blade with the pittance of snows last year, but minimal buildup of snow on an angled blade pushes the tractor sideways. I will try it again this winter, and record my experiences. That is why I ask about the SSQA. If I find the front blade continues to be a waste, I may move to a BX2680 with a rear blade, loader, and forks. But I use my forks and loader all the time. Like you with the importance of the SSQA, I find the new 80-Series quick attach loader a major plus for me and my son, to cut down on the time and inconvenience mounting and dismounting my loader on a primary mowing BX.... that gets the loader mounted and dis-mounted at least once per weekend. Then, the way I switch between the bucket and forks (also due to storage of my components on shelves) a non-Q/A loader is useless for me. I need a Q/A of some kind.
Since I cannot retro a BX2680 to use the 80-Series loader, I'd have to switch. From what I'm understanding, I won't "gain" use of any other real SSQA attachments (I know I don't really need anything else... I think?) but the SSQA would undoubtedly be on my order just because of the frequency I switch between the bucket and forks.
 
   / Quick attachment system #22  
PaPow,
I understand what you are saying. I'm not looking for arguing points, just exactly what these other SSQA attachments are that maybe I could use on a BX. I think you answered my question that there are none... at least for the little BX. There is not nearly enough weight to the BX to loft some attachment designed for a skid steer with a substantial amount more lifting capacity and mass behind the loader. This is further supported by the lack of hydraulic flow, which I think you misunderstood.
The BX has enough flow to move the loader or 3 point when tached up (at an idle it's useless with its single pump). What the BX does not have is enough hydro flow to operate an SSQA-mounted log splitter, posthole auger, backhoe, etc. which goes back to what I believe the answer is to my question. There are no useful SSQA attachments designed for a much more capable skid steer that gives the SSQA a real advantage over something like Jery's, other than the a mere few seconds to flip two SSQA levers over Jery's flip locks and two retainer pins.
Again, no argument, just what appears to be facts.
I agree with everything you say on your need for the SSQA. I have the front loader blade for my BX, and I tried it for last winter. I get drifted constantly, but since I bought my blower 3 years ago, I've used it ONCE. Prior, I used a rear blade and the loader. Frankly, I found the loader-mounted blade almost useless on pavement, as it required rear ballast for traction, so I mounted the rear blower in anticipation of the big snow I could use it with. I was then forced to use the loader-mounted blade with the pittance of snows last year, but minimal buildup of snow on an angled blade pushes the tractor sideways. I will try it again this winter, and record my experiences. That is why I ask about the SSQA. If I find the front blade continues to be a waste, I may move to a BX2680 with a rear blade, loader, and forks. But I use my forks and loader all the time. Like you with the importance of the SSQA, I find the new 80-Series quick attach loader a major plus for me and my son, to cut down on the time and inconvenience mounting and dismounting my loader on a primary mowing BX.... that gets the loader mounted and dis-mounted at least once per weekend. Then, the way I switch between the bucket and forks (also due to storage of my components on shelves) a non-Q/A loader is useless for me. I need a Q/A of some kind.
Since I cannot retro a BX2680 to use the 80-Series loader, I'd have to switch. From what I'm understanding, I won't "gain" use of any other real SSQA attachments (I know I don't really need anything else... I think?) but the SSQA would undoubtedly be on my order just because of the frequency I switch between the bucket and forks.

That was my exact point Robert, its the ease of attaching what i need, on the fly. I hear what your saying too, i totally understand where your at with it now because you gave me more detail about what your point was. I agree with you, the little BX`s do suffer due to their pumps. I turned up my pressure because i was disappointed in how weak it was in lower rpm`s. Now its not to bad with an additional 200psi, now i can deal with it better. I just hated the fact that i had to run the throttle wide open for everything, which in turn, is costing everything from sooner engine and transmission wear.

The other thing that sold me on the BX23S, was how the loader can come completely off the tractor in seconds, WITHOUT ever leaving the seat of the tractor...HUGE time saver. And the flat face couplers ALL come off at once... no more plugging in separate hose`s due to it having a manifold... lift the lever, hang the complete hose & manifold assembly right on the loader boom. The backhoe drops right off the tractor almost as quick as the FEL. I feel that i can get things done way faster with this tractor than my previous tractor. Time is money, and i have no time to mess around taking on/off implements. This tractor is a god send to my wife an i. As for winter ballast, the backhoe will come in handy for that. I wont need to buy a ballast box, nore have to store one more thing that i have no room for. My tires are also loaded, which will help tremendously in the winter as well as pushing dirt. Like you, my wife an i needed a tractor that could switch things at a given minute... the BX23S does just that. And we really didnt need a tractor any bigger than the BX23S.

Oh mannnnnn, i hear that on what you`re saying about angle plow blades, they suck. Thats why i now use a sno-pusher instead. its WAY FASTER than a blade. I use to have a sno-blower on my other tractor... being that i have a stone driveway, i got tired of replacing shear-pins every few feet. So the blower went down the road the first year i had it. I`ll never own another one. Blades and blowers... what use to take me hours, now is in minutes, the BX23S is an awesome tractor... best tractor i`ve bought to date. If i were you, i would check them out... they are worth looking into. Its only money, and we ain`t taken a dime of it with us when we leave this world either...lol.
 
   / Quick attachment system #23  
I had a B7800 that was not SSQA with forks and the bucket. I wasn't in a hurry but I was alone. Major straining trying to get them on with the pin type. Traded to a Grand L3240 with SSQA and will never go back if the option is available. I now have a grapple, bucket and hyd LP posthole digger and the SSQA is necessary and again nothing to do with time but age, well maybe it does have to do with time, how much time I've been a live. :D Is it worth it for only one attachment? Guess that's each persons individual decision based on money and strength. If we all had concrete floors and a huge building to store attachments on dollies to roll them into place it may be different but I usually drop and pick up attachments out on the ground. SSQA for me but I don't have a BX now.
 
   / Quick attachment system #24  
Well said John... this is exactly why i have the SSQA. I`m old, i`m tired, and i dont have a big garage to work out of.
Anytime things can be easier, it is the best thing at my age. I`ll admit, this SSQA is sure making me lazy...hahahaha.
 
   / Quick attachment system #25  
I bought Jery's Q/A for my last B2620 just because of switching between the bucket and forks. I keep stuff in my small pole barn on industrial-built shelves and up on blocks to maximize floor space. If I need it, the forks bring it out or down. I discovered a few years ago I wasn't getting younger. Scratch muscling everything around.
Now, I think I'd use the tractor even more if I could easily put on and take off the loader.if I could retro the 80-Series loader to my 70, it'd be different, but that's a lot more costly, and I'd likely have to give away the loader.
 
   / Quick attachment system #26  
I bought Jery's Q/A for my last B2620 just because of switching between the bucket and forks. I keep stuff in my small pole barn on industrial-built shelves and up on blocks to maximize floor space. If I need it, the forks bring it out or down. I discovered a few years ago I wasn't getting younger. Scratch muscling everything around.
Now, I think I'd use the tractor even more if I could easily put on and take off the loader.if I could retro the 80-Series loader to my 70, it'd be different, but that's a lot more costly, and I'd likely have to give away the loader.

Have you gone to your dealer to see what they`d give you on a trade deal for everything...? I`m sure they`ll wanna bend ya over, but its worth asking anyway. When i bought my bx, i hammered the dealer hard... didnt take them long to figure out that this old coot ain`t bendin over. Saved myself thousands, and they delivered the tractor to me for free @ 80 miles one way.
 
   / Quick attachment system #27  
Have you gone to your dealer to see what they`d give you on a trade deal for everything...? I`m sure they`ll wanna bend ya over, but its worth asking anyway. When i bought my bx, i hammered the dealer hard... didnt take them long to figure out that this old coot ain`t bendin over. Saved myself thousands, and they delivered the tractor to me for free @ 80 miles one way.

I went over to my dealer for Kubota Days a few weeks ago. He knows I'll probably trade. He always gives me good trade deals, but said at 70 hours, it won't be worth any more than next spring at 170, so I'll wait. It'll give me time to really think if I NEED the quick attach loader. Ive traded three out of five tractors in sixteen years. My problem is I like the B Series best for loader work with the dual pumps, and the longer wheelbase gives a better ride on the bumpy lawn. The problem is, the geometry of the B's front end tears up my yard on turns, and leaves rings around every tree I mow around. That's why I've traded several times. Hopeful someday the front end geometry on the B will change to allow me a better mower and all around tractor. Then again, the 80-Series BX may just be the new ticket. If the B doesn't incorporate the BX type quick connect loader by spring, I'll probably stick with a BX.
 
   / Quick attachment system #28  
Makes good sense to me Robert. If i were in your situation, i would be likely doing the same thing. I`ve had a few tractors over the years, and this new BX23S just blows me away. Its not a power house by any stretch, but its more than enough tractor for my wife an i. I think my favorite thing on the tractor is, the darn`d tilt wheel...lol.
 
   / Quick attachment system #29  
Do you leave it in 4wd? Running in 2wd rips things up a LOT less than in 4wd. I only put it in 4wd when I need the traction or will be doing loader work (for the front braking as much as anything).
 
   / Quick attachment system #30  
Makes good sense to me Robert. If i were in your situation, i would be likely doing the same thing. I`ve had a few tractors over the years, and this new BX23S just blows me away. Its not a power house by any stretch, but its more than enough tractor for my wife an i. I think my favorite thing on the tractor is, the darn`d tilt wheel...lol.

Yep! Love the tilt wheel.
Think the items I like best in no particular order are:
Tilt wheel
New joystick location
Quick hydro coupler
New Swift-Tatch loader
Flip forward grill guard & tilt hood
Shorter ROPS (Have dented garage trim)
Nicer dash
Bucket level indicator
Replaceable bucket edge
New grease points on loader

Many reasons the new BX is a winner again.

I'm hoping it's not a $6000 upgrade in spring.
 

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