Quick Connect trouble

[woodlandfarms]

Woodlandfarms,
I guess I'm missing why you want to change them?

The male one you gave the part number for is $8.50 and the matching female is less than $20.00 at Bailey's on P68 of their PDF catalog.

Bailey's has been around a long time. I've purchased from them before, including the quick connects like you currently have, only a smaller size for my PT425.

Frankly I am sick and tired of waiting for parts to show up in the mail. I just want to drive down the road, grab it and go. Not order it every time I need it.

But it is much cheaper than the parkers (Parkers were $15 for the fittings).

 

[woodlandfarms]

Carl, I sell Holmbury. Probably because that's who my supplier dealt with when I opened. I also have some Parker stuff. (shhhh, don't tell Weatherhead) For the weekend user like you, flat face probably isn't worth the cost of converting. They are almost drip-less. It is rumored that the EPA or whoever regulates this stuff is going to require drip proof q.d.'s in the near future. We can't have any oil dripping on the ground you know. I wonder where oil came from?

I just did a calculation on oil I have spilled from my PT. I have purchased 10 cases of oil since its purchase. 12 quarts per case... 120 quarrts..

not one drop was into a pan.. I would say 10 quarts spilled in my carport from hoses and stuff, the rest spread across my 40 acres.. Frustrating but I am now seeing the end of my oil leaks... It is odd to check the oil level and find it at the same height as it was 2 hours ago...

 

[SpringHollow]

I have been buying the cheap Italian Flat Face on Ebay. If you are willing to buy in large (10) quantities, they are actually semi affordable. It is really nice not to have a spot of oil every time i swap connections. I cringe every time i do this but i have swapped while the tractor was running. The other really nice thing is that they are easily cleaned before connecting.

Ken

 

[J_J]

Carl.


Did you ever put that leak detector in your hydraulic tank. It would sure help you find any leaks that you may have?

On the Quick Disconnects, no one else can think for you here, , because you know what is available in your area. I would get what is the most common in your area. Since you can not connect and disconnect under pressure with the standard PT couplers, the standard couplers is the cheapest way to go. If money is no problem, I would go flat face. Like Ken said, easy to clean, connect and disconnect under pressure. handle more pressure, allow more fluid. What is there not to like except the cost. It's not like you have to replace them everyday. You only have one attachment right now, that uses a hydraulic motor. After the initial outlay, it's just a matter of getting a new set of couplers for each attachment you purchase in the future.

Did you ever do the pass through test I mentioned on the couplers? That test will test a coupler to see if it will pass fluid as advertised.

Is the problem the PTO pump, valve system, or Quick Disconnect, or hydraulic motor?

I hope that you mechanically inclined, because you have a machine that needs it. After you get through with fixing things, you can sit in the seat and smile, and enjoy the PT without having to repair things every time you use it. Good Luck.

 

[woodlandfarms]

JJ
I did not put in a leak detector as either the leak is in the tunnel (will not find it without pulling hoses) or clearly obvious. At this point I think I have resolved most, if not all, of my oil leaks. I am replacing hoses as I have time / money. My three big leaks got fixed over the holiday.

As for connectors. I am going to have to way the cost / benefit on flat faced. but yes, I think I am going to make the connectors "local" in flavor so I don't have to make the $50 minimum with PT or wait a week for a connector. It is not as if I am going to be doing very much PTO work anyway.

As for the PTO. Here is what I know.

My PT has a built in PTO Bypass.

I have replaced the hoses from the pump, to the actuator and down to the PTO Connector.

I have NOT replaced any return or bypass lines (I will as Bob gave me a great tip on how to use a shop vac to prevent tank spillage).

I have checked voltage and ground to the Solenoid and it is good. I have dissasembled the Solenoid, and it activates, altough I am not sure how strong it really is. I have cleaned out the aluminum box (I think)

What happens is that when I flip on the PTO at idle the engine stalls (this makes me think that the PTO pump is strong and working - Pressure is not strong enough to make the bypass activate and the solenoid is not opening fully)

I then hook a hose from the PTO output and lay it back into the tank. Same results. I get some flow, but the engine is bogging so pressure is backed up somewhere.

Basically, all this testing is leading me back to the Solenoid. You have a great idea on just going with a new solenoid system, but in peicing it together I am no where near the price that just a replacement solenoid will be.

Carl

 

[MossRoad]

...As for connectors. I am going to have to way the cost / benefit on flat faced. but yes, I think I am going to make the connectors "local" in flavor so I don't have to make the $50 minimum with PT or wait a week for a connector. It is not as if I am going to be doing very much PTO work anyway....
Carl

You could order a male and female from Bailey's and keep them on the shelf. They'll be there when you need them and you can replace them as you use them. Sorry if I sound like a pest... but I am really just cheap and do not like to spend money. If you want to see how copper wire is made, try pulling a penny out of my fingers.

 

[woodlandfarms]

HA... Indeed. Maybe I will just order a box full of them...

and now that a penny costs .02 to make it makes sense to hold on to them.

Carl

 

[J_J]

Carl.

How many hoses are going into, and coming out of the PTO block, and can you take a picture of it?

 

[woodlandfarms]

I am in LA. There are two hoses, a 3/4" and a 1/2" coming from the two pumps into one side. On the top are two pressure relief valves. On the edge is the PTO Actuator. On the other side is a 3/4" PTO Feed, a 3/4" Feed back to the tank and 1/2" to the accumlator that feeds steering and lift....

The two relief valves dump back into the 3/4" pipe back to the tank when activated. I am have not followed the 1/2 pipe beyond the acumulator. I assume there is a feedback to the tank so that when nothing is activated it doesn't back up and activate the pressure release.

Here is the one blury picture I have...

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/attachments/power-trac/92909d1199395178-what-huh-4.jpg

The picture is upside down, stand on your head ;-)

 

[SpringHollow]

Carl,

Is this what you are talking about?

Ken