Quick Hitch Cat 1 question

[pappy60]

If anyone has this Cat 1 QuickHitch Category 1 Quick Hitch 14116 #14116000 by Rural King Farm Store...

I think it is what I need and think it will fit my attachments (scrapers, brush hog, finish mower, box blade, etc)

But the nearest Rural King stores do not have it in stock and won't get one for me to measure it..

The web site says the inside measurement is 27.16" but it also says the lift arm spacing is 27.16"

If you have one, could you measure the distance between the "U" part where the pins go ??

Need both the distance between them and the distance to the outside of them.. See attached crummy drawing..

Any help would be appreciated.. If it fits (hopefully), will order one...Category 1 Quick Hitch 14116

 

[Roadworthy]

It appears to be saying your implement should be slightly less than 27" wide. The pins would stick out each side allowing the hooks on the quick hitch to lift them. If your implement body exceeds 27" it would not fit between the hooks. If is is very much less than 27" it would be too small for the quick hitch to lift.

 

[i7win7]

comparison of 6 QH's
COMPARING 3 POINT QUICK HITCHES! 2 VERSION - YouTube

I think QH's are better standardized than implements.
I modded a few so everything uses the same top link spacing - info here
Ideas to make implements QH compatible | OrangeTractorTalks - Everything Kubota

 

[WranglerX]

Here is specification/standard for QH dimensions....



You are going to find that unless attachment/implement was specifically designed to fit this specification, most "stuff" will be close, or maybe not.... To make QH work with all your implements you may have to do some mods and changes on implements so all fit your "standard" QH.....

First thing you will find about a QH is top hook will be too short and implement hardware will interfere with bolts holding top hook... It common problem with all Chinesium QH's...

Dale

 

[ovrszd]

There are specific dimensions of QH's by Category of hitch.

The manufacturers of QH's seem to follow those guidelines fairly well considering the volume of makers.

Attachment standards aren't even close. They don't seem to care. Some will even tout their QH capability. But rarely are.

So with all that said. I'd guess the QH you are looking at is as suggested above. 27" inside width or slightly more. Good luck with your attachments.

 

[pappy60]

I appreciate your replies... my original need is the EXACT measurements off of this particular quick hitch.

I know it will fit most of my attachments, but need measurements to make sure it fits them all...

Bought other quick hitch's and had to return them... do not want to buy another one until sure of measurements.

The nearest Rural King is 40 miles and will not get one without promising to buy it..

Thanks for your comments and hope someone has this to measure it..

 

[ovrszd]

My point is that almost every QH will have the minimal measurement between the hooks. Your attachments may/may not.

Since you are concerned about it fitting "all" or your attachments indicates you have measured them? Are there some that exceed the 27.16" measurement claimed by the QH manufacturer?

 

[WranglerX]

Your concept to buy a QH that will exactly fit ALL you implements is flawed as not all implements were designed for QH compatibility.... A QH "standard" just redefined a very loose CAT 1 ( or 2 or 3) concept.... Get QH, mod each implement to fit, and move on....

Dale


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[ovrszd]

I just now read your RK link. Glaring statement. "Brand May Vary".

So you have no idea what you are getting. Buy one. Then modify your attachments to fit.

 

[bcp]

Order one. Measure it. If it doesn't meet QH standards, refuse it. It is not what it claims to be.

Bruce

 

[3gunr]

Go with the pats quick hitch you wont regret it and they sell them at rk also. they will fit anything and no bushings needed.

 

[Mat4644]

I bought a Haul Master quick hitch from Harbor Freight. It is probably the same Chinese hitch Rural king and others are selling. It is standard dimensions EXCEPT the top and bottom hook openings are slightly bigger openings. The locks on the bottom hooks also do not close near enough to the implement pins leaving a sizeable gap. A 3 pt rototiller will jump around in the hooks. The top hook also needs more clearance sticking out to fit some implements.

Since have switched to a Land Pride QH and it fits the implement pins much tighter and no jumping around. The implement bushings are Cat 3 size diameter on all Cat 1 quick hitchs if you want to check fit .

 

[pappy60]

I had also bought the one from Harbor Freight.. The openings for pins are Cat 2 size... you need bushings to make Cat 1 pins fit... Returned it for that reason.

I have been using these which are similar to Pats... but do not extend the length of the bars like Pats does.. Been using them for years and like them but would like to go to
a regular quick hitch so I do not have to get off / on the tractor to put lock pins in and to attach the top link..



If you search e-Bay for "quick hitch" you will find them.

Hopefully someone bought the Rural King one and will provide measurements..

 

[Mat4644]

I think all standard Cat 1 quick hitches use Cat 3 size bushings. The standard is posted if you Google it. If using actual bushing and not the specialized adaptor you need a Cat 1 to 2 bushing slid into a Cat 2 to 3 bushing. The Haul Master hitch was a loose Cat 3 fit. The Land Pride QH15 fit the Cat 3 size snug.

I have seen the Rural King QH and it is identical in looks to the Chinese Haul Master and it will be Cat 3 pins. Hopefully the ones manufactured now fits tighter. Rural King also sells a Cat 2 quick hitch.

If you buy a Land Pride QH10 you don't need any pin adaptors for Cat 1 implement.

The Cat 1 quick hitches use Cat 3 size pins but keep Cat 1 dimensions.

 

[pappy60]

Mat4644 thank you for info on pin sizes....the HF I had bought was probably as you said a Cat3 pin size...

Will just continue to use what I have... just getting lazy in my old age ... If still cannot get out much due to covid19, may weld up my own version come winter..

Thanks to everyone for the replies...
Appreciate all the info..

Stay safe, wear a mask, stay six feet apart !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Mat4644]

I'm still using the Haul Master hitch on my old Ford and will weld a small pad on the pin locks for a more snug fit. Price wise it's a fraction the cost of Land Pride. It is a very heavy built hitch.

 

[Wyobuckaroo]

This video from Good Works Tractor has some good basic comparisons and dimensions..

COMPARING 3 POINT QUICK HITCHES! 2 VERSION - YouTube

 

[Mat4644]

This video from Good Works Tractor has some good basic comparisons and dimensions..

COMPARING 3 POINT QUICK HITCHES! 22 VERSION ����*������*�� - YouTube

There are at least two non-standard Cat 1 quick hitches out there that don't require adaptors and use the original implement pins. Speeco E-Hitch and Land Pride QH10.

I wonder why the QH standard is Cat 3 pins? Maybe they wanted to sell adaptors along with quick hitches. Wish I knew about the others before I bought mine.

 

[i7win7]

I wonder why the QH standard is Cat 3 pins? Maybe they wanted to sell adaptors along with quick hitches. Wish I knew about the others before I bought mine.

Early 3pt tractors were cat 1. As tractors and implements got larger, they needed heavier attachment points - thus cat 2. Equipment continued to increase in size and horsepower, cat 3 was developed. Implements became difficult to connect and a quick attachment method was needed. It worked well enough that the quick hitch idea "trickled down" to smaller equipment. Just my opinion, fist QH's I ever saw was on 100+ HP tractors.

 

[WranglerX]

This video from Good Works Tractor has some good basic comparisons and dimensions..

COMPARING 3 POINT QUICK HITCHES! 22 VERSION ����*������*�� - YouTube

The funny thing about the video that recommended SPEECO cat 1 QH, actually violates the ISO standard for QH as all QH's from cat 1 to cat 3 use cat 3 pins by the standard...

As a side note, i Use a puce of 1 inch water pipe for sleeve on my small pin implements (7/8 pin) to bring them up to cat 3 specs... Yes I know not standard or probably not best material, but if works for low use implements...

Dale