Quick Hitches quick hitch problems

[Deerherd]

Great thread. I purchased a Woods QH (rebranded speeco) to use on my Woods implements that I just purchased. I could tell just by looking at it things needed to be changed but my dealer had no clue. I called Woods and they gave me part numbers for bushing kits for the different implements. For the Bushbull BB72X it's 1027549, Grading Scraper GS72C it's 1003832 and for the snow blower they said they would have to get back to me. So far they haven't. And oh by the way, they are out of stock on the kits. I think I can get the bushings made locally if I can find out the correct size.

 

[clee4020]

Here is some stuff I found on 3ph dimensions and I-match. I got cat 1 to cat bushings then cat 2 to cat 3 bushing with a pin hole in them for my adapters.

I have a John Deere Cat II QH and a Harbor Freight Cat II QH. The HF QH appears to have the correct spacing between lower arms (A), but is a little more than 24" on vertical height (B) when pinned in the lowest spot. I also have the same problem with the HF QH top hook not fit into the slot where the top link pin is. I am thinking about cutting where the pin holes for adjustment are off, welding a spacer if needed, and weld the top hook in place (especially since it not correct distance anyway).

 

[94BULLITT]

Great thread. I purchased a Woods QH (rebranded speeco) to use on my Woods implements that I just purchased. I could tell just by looking at it things needed to be changed but my dealer had no clue. I called Woods and they gave me part numbers for bushing kits for the different implements. For the Bushbull BB72X it's 1027549, Grading Scraper GS72C it's 1003832 and for the snow blower they said they would have to get back to me. So far they haven't. And oh by the way, they are out of stock on the kits. I think I can get the bushings made locally if I can find out the correct size.

Check around on bushings you probably can find them cheaper than what woods will want for them. NorTrac Quick-Hitch Bushing Set — Fits Category 1 Hitches | 3-Point Hitch Adapters| Northern Tool + Equipment TSC has a pretty good assortment of bushings.

I have a John Deere Cat II QH and a Harbor Freight Cat II QH. The HF QH appears to have the correct spacing between lower arms (A), but is a little more than 24" on vertical height (B) when pinned in the lowest spot. I also have the same problem with the HF QH top hook not fit into the slot where the top link pin is. I am thinking about cutting where the pin holes for adjustment are off, welding a spacer if needed, and weld the top hook in place (especially since it not correct distance anyway).

If you do what I did you can drill you holes anywhere to get a 24" spacing.

 

[BlacknTan]

I believe the correct vertical dimension for Cat 1 QH is 15 inches nominal. 24 inches is quite far out of range, unless I'm misunderstanding something..

 

[KennyG]

I believe the correct vertical dimension for Cat 1 QH is 15 inches nominal. 24 inches is quite far out of range, unless I'm misunderstanding something..

24 inch is the standard Cat II vertical dimension and 18 inches is the standard Cat I dimension when NOT using a quick hitch. This will be the dimensions of the quick hitch on the tractor side. The QH implement side is standardized as a 15 inch vertical dimension regardless of the Category. When using a QH, the whole idea is being able to standardize the implements.

 

[BlacknTan]

24 inch is the standard Cat II vertical dimension and 18 inches is the standard Cat I dimension when NOT using a quick hitch. This will be the dimensions of the quick hitch on the tractor side. The QH implement side is standardized as a 15 inch vertical dimension regardless of the Category. When using a QH, the whole idea is being able to standardize the implements.

Sorry... I thought we were talking about the implement side. I'll go back to sleep now..

 

[Deerherd]

Check around on bushings you probably can find them cheaper than what woods will want for them. NorTrac Quick-Hitch Bushing Set — Fits Category 1 Hitches | 3-Point Hitch Adapters| Northern Tool + Equipment TSC has a pretty good assortment of bushings.

Well my dealer called me with the price and for one kit it was $106 and the other $122! I went to TSC and picked up a set for the land plane for $18 and went to another dealer and they set me up for $22 for the snow blower and Rotary mower. $40 bucks and good to go as opposed to $228 from Woods. Like their implements but those prices are wack-a-ho. (I never did find out how much they wanted for the snow blower bushings)

 

[94BULLITT]

Well my dealer called me with the price and for one kit it was $106 and the other $122! I went to TSC and picked up a set for the land plane for $18 and went to another dealer and they set me up for $22 for the snow blower and Rotary mower. $40 bucks and good to go as opposed to $228 from Woods. Like their implements but those prices are wack-a-ho. (I never did find out how much they wanted for the snow blower bushings)

That's some crazy prices. I can't believe you got them at tsc for $18. My tsc wants $32 for a set of qh adapters. I got 2 cat 1 to cat2 and cat2 to cat 3 bushings but have almost as much in them as what I can buy the right adapters online for so I guess I'll take them back and bow down and buy the regular qh adapters. I guess I need to do some more digging around for them and see what I can come up with.

 

[Deerherd]

I have those $34 bushing for implements that have the outward facing 3 pt hitch pin. These bushings are used on things that have an enclosed pin, rotary mower, snow blower, land plane etc. Here's a link to the bushings for cheap.

For the rotary mower it took three bushings per side, two of the TP2008 inside of one TP3013 and it makes it the correct size for the quick hitch.

Lift Arm Bushings

 

[94BULLITT]

I have those $34 bushing for implements that have the outward facing 3 pt hitch pin. These bushings are used on things that have an enclosed pin, rotary mower, snow blower, land plane etc. Here's a link to the bushings for cheap.

For the rotary mower it took three bushings per side, two of the TP2008 inside of one TP3013 and it makes it the correct size for the quick hitch.

Lift Arm Bushings

That is a very good point. I need those expensive bushings because I use the qh on the bx and I don't have any implement with a clevis hookup for it yet.

 

[jgayman]

My Land Pride QH-15 (Cat 1) uses Cat 3 pins, upper and lower. I know the JD does also.

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Interesting. I just ordered a QH15 and waiting for delivery. The dealer said it doesn't need bushings. So I called Land Pride and they too said it doesn't NEED bushings but that I might want to use them to tighten things up a bit. Huh? I'm purchasing a new RB1560 blade as well so I hope everything fits.

I have a draw bar and boom pole that I will try to get to work once I receive the hitch.

Do you know if the QH15 can use any other brand of bushings? The bushing table on the QH15 manual is very confusing. Most bushings I've seen have a large outer collar on them but the illustrations in the QH15 manual shows bushing as straignt pieces of tubing.

I was initially looking at the Speeco quick-hitch but in the end decided on the Land Pride as I assumed the RB1560 and QH15 would go together without any issues. I agree with the previous post though, for what the QH15 costs it should come with a whole box of bushings.

 

[BlacknTan]

Interesting. I just ordered a QH15 and waiting for delivery. The dealer said it doesn't need bushings. So I called Land Pride and they too said it doesn't NEED bushings but that I might want to use them to tighten things up a bit. Huh? I'm purchasing a new RB1560 blade as well so I hope everything fits.

I have a draw bar and boom pole that I will try to get to work once I receive the hitch.

Do you know if the QH15 can use any other brand of bushings? The bushing table on the QH15 manual is very confusing. Most bushings I've seen have a large outer collar on them but the illustrations in the QH15 manual shows bushing as straignt pieces of tubing.

I was initially looking at the Speeco quick-hitch but in the end decided on the Land Pride as I assumed the RB1560 and QH15 would go together without any issues. I agree with the previous post though, for what the QH15 costs it should come with a whole box of bushings.

Well, your dealer may be right. I doesn't NEED bushings, but I sure would WANT bushings. The lower hooks will accept 1 7/16" pins, but your lower pins are 7/8". That's more than the thickness of 1/4" wall tubing. The top hook accepts 1 1/4" pins, but your top link pins are only 3/4", again the thickness of 1/4 inch wall tubing. So yes, I suppose in theory one could run without bushings, but I wouldn't want to.
I believe a set of lower bushings comes with the QH-15. The LP QH-15 is a nice, well made piece of equipment though, and Made in the USA. You will see in the owners manual that there are lower bushings in different lengths. If you do not have the clevis type mount on your implements, you can use the stepped style bushings that are commonly available most anywhere, but many LP implements use the clevis style, which I happen to like. To save $$, you can always pick up a random length of DOM steel tubing and cut your own to length, but in some instances, a bit of clearance may need to be bored into the tubing. A 5 minute job for ANY machine shop.

It's a little antsy in the beginning getting all your implements set up properly, but it's well worth it in the end! Good luck with your new QH.. you're gonna' love it!

 

[clemsonfor]

I thought the QH adapters were something like $3-5 a piece at TSC. I was thinking you could deffinitly get them at agrisupply for that?

 

[gtrippleb]

I thought the QH adapters were something like $3-5 a piece at TSC. I was thinking you could deffinitly get them at agrisupply for that?

It looks like the bushings are $2-$7 at TSC.
Tractor Supply - Search Results for bushing

 

[94BULLITT]

It looks like the bushings are $2-$7 at TSC.
Tractor Supply - Search Results for bushing

By the time you buy 2 cat1 to cat2 and 2 cat2 to cat3 bushings you can get the regular ones at northern tool for less.
NorTrac Quick-Hitch Bushing Set Fits Category 1 Hitches | 3-Point Hitch Adapters| Northern Tool + Equipment

 

[catdozer]

I made these myself for about $3, i needed these for my land-plane clevis hitch. I picked up my individual bushings on clearance for 50 cents a pair so bought all they had which was good for 4 attachments. Try to find yourself a friend or machine shop with a lathe, a lot cheaper than buying them

 

[94BULLITT]

I made these myself for about $3, i needed these for my land-plane clevis hitch. I picked up my individual bushings on clearance for 50 cents a pair so bought all they had which was good for 4 attachments. Try to find yourself a friend or machine shop with a lathe, a lot cheaper than buying them

I thought about making a set but the ones you buy are forged and should hold up better. I doubt anyone with a lathe would make 2 for 12.99.

 

[94BULLITT]

My qh was like Artisan's and the lift arm pins were too small. So I drilled them out to the proper size (7/8") and also cleaned up the toplink adjustment holes by running a 1/2" drill bit through them. I found some 7/8" pins for the lift arms to replace the ones that were to small. 7/8" x 2-1/2" Plain Finish Clevis Pin | Fastenal

 

[SPYDERLK]

Well, your dealer may be right. I doesn't NEED bushings, but I sure would WANT bushings. The lower hooks will accept 1 7/16" pins, but your lower pins are 7/8". That's more than the thickness of 1/4" wall tubing. The top hook accepts 1 1/4" pins, but your top link pins are only 3/4", again the thickness of 1/4 inch wall tubing. So yes, I suppose in theory one could run without bushings, but I wouldn't want to.
I believe a set of lower bushings comes with the QH-15. The LP QH-15 is a nice, well made piece of equipment though, and Made in the USA. You will see in the owners manual that there are lower bushings in different lengths. If you do not have the clevis type mount on your implements, you can use the stepped style bushings that are commonly available most anywhere, but many LP implements use the clevis style, which I happen to like. To save $$, you can always pick up a random length of DOM steel tubing and cut your own to length, but in some instances, a bit of clearance may need to be bored into the tubing. A 5 minute job for ANY machine shop.

It's a little antsy in the beginning getting all your implements set up properly, but it's well worth it in the end! Good luck with your new QH.. you're gonna' love it!

I have one on my BX. I havent found a need for any bushings since the pins are captured and the allowed slop in the loose fit has never been a problem. There could be cases where it is I guess, but in most situations its just aesthetics. I do use a 7/8" washer just inside the lynch pins tho.
larry

 

[catdozer]

Artisan, for you top link adapter could you, weld like a top on the adapter so it doesn't pivot up or down, here is a photo I took off a YouTube video "it's how to make a toplink adapter"