R4 to R1 swap $$$

[ElDorado]

First off this is NOT a R4-R1 thread!!! That's a beat horse!! Now having said that I want to swap my R4s for R1s. My local dealer has a set of R1s. Both sets of tires are low hour tires. In addition I have chains that match the R4s.

My question to y'all is what should I expect for bartering? Other links here indicate about a $500 difference between the R4s vs the R1s, couple this with the chains for the R4s. Who's going to owe who? Should I expect to have to give additional cash?

From where I sit what I have cost more than what he has correct? Therefore worse case scenario would be a straight up trade. I am hoping that we can flop tires PLUS ????

Thoughts???

 

[bp fick]

Did you tell us the tractor you have?

I sold my turfs off my BX on Craigs. Then I ordered a set of wheels/tires from Kubota Whole Goods. If I recall correctly, the R1s were a wee bit cheaper than the R4s I chose, but the price was not earth shaking different.

Yeah, straight up, for the dealers bother, sounds just about right. YMMV. A lot depends on what he has and what he needs for re-sale.

 

[radman1]

If both tires are similar in degree of wear, ideally it should be an even swap IMHO. The R4s cost a little more when ordered new, but the dealer deserves a little break for his business and he will probably be physically doing the tire swap. Most people buy R4s rather than R1s. You may actually be doing a favor for the dealer since R4s are more desireable for most buyers.

The chains is a whole different problem. Dealer may have little to no use for the chains. I would start by just bargaining with the tire swap. Maybe put the chains for sale on craigslist ect?

 

[DmansPadge]

Yeah... yours should be worth more considering both sets have even amount of wear. But I bet the dealer is going to want something for it. And I agree it will probably be better for him to have a set of R4s laying around than a set of R1s... but you know people are in business to make money and he has something you want! Even if you did have a give a little for them it is still your best bet because buying new rims and tires aren't cheap and R1s are becoming more and more scarce on the compacts.

 

[beenthere]

Doubt a dealer will give you cash back. Hope it works out in your favor tho...cash in the pocket.

 

[PILOON]

A dealer will want profit on anything he sells.

Whenever he takes trade ins he needs profit there as well, its called wholesale/retail, so expect him to offer you a wholesale value on your trade ins.

My guess is that you'll be lucky if you get 50% of the used retail value of your tires/rims.

Don't forget he also has to warrantee your used tires when he resells them.
Plus your trades need to be a 'fast mover' or high demand set.

 

[forester2]

Why not buy them outright and sell the R4.s yourself on Craigslist or ebay if you believe there is that big a value difference.

 

[jda1961]

First off this is NOT a R4-R1 thread!!! That's a beat horse!! Now having said that I want to swap my R4s for R1s. My local dealer has a set of R1s. Both sets of tires are low hour tires. In addition I have chains that match the R4s.

My question to y'all is what should I expect for bartering? Other links here indicate about a $500 difference between the R4s vs the R1s, couple this with the chains for the R4s. Who's going to owe who? Should I expect to have to give additional cash?

From where I sit what I have cost more than what he has correct? Therefore worse case scenario would be a straight up trade. I am hoping that we can flop tires PLUS ????

Thoughts???

you are wanting to swap tires not the dealer, so he has the advantage. he may swap even but i doubt it.

 

[SPYDERLK]

Rims ... ?
larry

 

[MossRoad]

Rims ... ?
larry

And Tire Diameter?