Radiator Repair Question

[coosa]

Nevermind on the questions about the drain device. It does have a bolt that can be removed, so even though it's much different than the drain that Hoye sells, it would work.

I got the radiator off and it was miles easier than getting one out of the JD I had. But all the shops are closed until Monday, so I have to leave the parts scattered over the carport for the weekend.

I looked at how it would work to remove the bracket and run without it, but the side panel does not protect the oil filter and I don't wanna leave it exposed. I'll look at some more, but I don't see an easy way to modify the bracket so the oil filter will come out with it installed. It may be easier to disconnect the lines to the drain and pull the bracket every time I change the oil. That will mean removing 8 bolts and 2 water lines in order to get to the oil filter.

Thanks again for the help.

 

[Ford850]

Makes you wonder if the original filters were a little smaller and could be changed with the bracket in place.

 

[normde2001]

I would solder in place same with a BERNZ torch, same as soldering a copper pipe fitting. Yup, you gotta remove the whole bracket to change the filter, about 3 bolts.

 

[winston1]

Makes you wonder if the original filters were a little smaller and could be changed with the bracket in place.

I think you may be onto something. I believe there are shorter filters for this application. For instance, the Fram PH3593A is 3.39" high, the Wix 51064 or Napa 1064 is 2.988" tall. Don't know if that is enough difference or not.

 

[California]

Is there room in there to install a much longer front hose, so you could let the bracket dangle like in the photo at each oil change? The longer hose might be at risk of damage from the fan belt, or snagging in brush, however. That seems preferable to draining the cooling system for each oil change.

The short version of the oil filter is common, it's used on my Subaru and I think a lot of Honda, Nissan etc. Maybe the design principle there is the oil pressure comes up sooner, more important than a larger capacity to hold dirt now that engines are so well sealed. If it could be used on your Yanmar to avoid that teardown at each oil change, it would be my choice. But then I seldom operate in dust. The larger filter is obviously better if there is a lot of dust or chaff in your work environment.

 

[coosa]

Glad to hear someone else confirm the bracket has to be removed to change the oil. And I strongly suspect that the idea presented that the original oil filter was shorter is correct. Everything about the little tractor seems to be well-engineered; I just can't believe the original designer would have made it this hard to replace an oil filter. There is a slot cut in the bracket for the filter; it is just a shade too tight to get this filter out. Its gotta be that the new filter is longer.

California, the line from the block is actually long enough to bypass the drain altogether, but I would still need the bracket to protect the filter. I do a lot of limb pushing and the filter needs to be protected. If I have to keep the bracket anyway, I might as well hook at all back up as originally intended.

I'll let it sit until Monday morning and try to approach it with a fresh start. There is a radiator shop a few miles away and they do good work, so I'll let him fix it and be confident it is right. Then I'll see what I can do with the bracket. Since we have a good idea that a shorter filter would work, I think a little work on the bracket with a torch should make this one come out. I don't think I need to remove much metal at all; 1/2" should do it. I'll post a pic if I am able to get it to work. Only thing is its gonna be hard to test it without removing the new filter, and I really don't wanta do that.

Thanks again for the help.

 

[Neat 1500]

Do you guys get Sakura filters over the pond? We get them here and they are quite little stumpy filters. Maybe what you are looking for. Check it's specs here..Sakura Filter

 

[California]

That looks to be the short Subaru/Honda filter I mentioned, same mounting and specs as Yanmar OEM in a short can.

 

[careyo63]

The Sakura looks to be same Oil Filter as Fredricks. OF-1334 H-2.3/4"or 7.0mm. That's real close using a tape.

 

[coosa]

Do you guys get Sakura filters over the pond? We get them here and they are quite little stumpy filters. Maybe what you are looking for. Check it's specs here..Sakura Filter

Google says 74 mm = 2.913". The filter I was struggling to get out is right at 3", so I doubt that one is different enough to matter. I think a filter about 2.5" would work.

I apologize to all for not seeing right off that the device the line hooks to is a drain. I started a new medicine Wednesday and I've kinda felt like I'm in a fog since. I went out the next morning and looked at it and saw immediately how it functioned as a drain. I can't imagine how I didn't see that from the start. I'm obviously a poor mechanic, but I've got better sense than I showed in this thread.