Ram is going to cut powertrain warranties too

[RollingsFarms]

What a joke! I might just have to say forget buying a new truck ever again. This is ridiculous.

Ram Cuts Powertrain Warranty for 2016 - PickupTrucks.com News

 

[jcummins]

They are cheapening up parts.

 

[RollingsFarms]

All of them are, cheaper parts and charge a higher price and have an unreliable piece of junk that we won't have to warranty as long. Welcome to the American auto. Too bad Germans don't sell trucks here.

 

[Gafn]

Yea... when looking for a car for the wife I went with Mitsubishi...

5yr/60K - bumper to bumper 10yr/100K power train - nothing made/assembled on this continent could compare.
I would love to spend my money on a product that at least had american hands do something in the build/assemble process, but you just don't get confidence in the quality

 

[Clint S]

Yea... when looking for a car for the wife I went with Mitsubishi...

5yr/60K - bumper to bumper 10yr/100K power train - nothing made/assembled on this continent could compare.
I would love to spend my money on a product that at least had american hands do something in the build/assemble process, but you just don't get confidence in the quality

Depends, several Mitsubishi cars are assembled in Indiana. Gallant, Eclipse, outlander sport, endeavor. We own several and have had nothing but good luck with them. The 5/60 BTB warranty is hard to beat.

 

[ultrarunner]

All of them are, cheaper parts and charge a higher price and have an unreliable piece of junk that we won't have to warranty as long. Welcome to the American auto. Too bad Germans don't sell trucks here.

I've seen Dodge Sprinter parts made in Germany.... don't know if they still are?

 

[Tomtint]

I have a MB Sprinter. It is just about to go out of warranty at 36kmiles.its 18 months old and has been in the shop for several warranty issues already. It's a 2014 and already showing signs of rusting under the paint. I'm pretty sure I'm getting rid of it next week for a Ford. No matter what you get these days, they are all junk. Having a warranty is huge when shop labor rates are 120.00 per hour

 

[Egon]

Just keeping up with Ford ain't it?

 

[RollingsFarms]

If the American auto industry has somehow figured out some sneaky way to sell us a $40, 50, 60 and even $70,000 dollar truck AND make us buy the extended warranty just to have some piece of mind even though they will try their best to squirm out
Of honoring it. If that's the case then I hope they all go bankrupt.

 

[ovrszd]

Gentlemen, we are blaming the wrong people. The consumer is at fault, not the manufacturer. The manufacturer will produce the cheapest and least warranted item it can still sell. Regardless of country of origin. Regardless of product. Consumers are always in control of product quality.

 

[Ford850]

It was at 5 years or 100k miles. How many of you put over 60k miles on your trucks in 5 years? How many buy new trucks and keep them for more than 5 years?

 

[tcartwri]

It's even worse in Canada where the warranty is only 5Y/60 KM...

40,000 miles...

 

[Sawyer Rob]

It was at 5 years or 100k miles. How many of you put over 60k miles on your trucks in 5 years? How many buy new trucks and keep them for more than 5 years?

Well, let's see.....I bought a new Chevy K20HD in 1982 and I still have it... I bought a new Dodge W350 in 1992 and I still have it!

I bought new Chevy pu in 2012, we'll see how long I keep it...

SR

 

[Gary Fowler]

It was at 5 years or 100k miles. How many of you put over 60k miles on your trucks in 5 years? How many buy new trucks and keep them for more than 5 years?

When I bought my 2007 Silverado Z71 truck they of course wanted me to spring for an extended warranty. NO Way. I now have 48K miles on it and it has not been back to the dealer since new. Wife has a 2003 Olds Bravada AWD and other than a water pump the engine is still original everything with just a bit over 102K mileage.
I bought her a new 2013 Honda CRV as a retirement vehicle but other than a few trips to Houston it sets in the garage (4600 miles). She prefers to drive her almost 13 year old Olds.

 

[RollingsFarms]

It was at 5 years or 100k miles. How many of you put over 60k miles on your trucks in 5 years? How many buy new trucks and keep them for more than 5 years?

A lot of people do. Go look at used trucks that are two/three years old. Most have 50-60k on them. You at least had the power train warranty remaining for another couple years and til 100k but not anymore. I hope this crushes the used car sales and people catch on to this mess. I know I won't be fooled. I'll expect the deal of a lifetime from now on since they no longer have confidence in their product to warranty it for a decent amount of time.

 

[Sawyer Rob]

Warr have been going up and down since I was a kid, it's a sales gimmick...

I read that GM stated, the longer warr program didn't help their sales enough to keep it, so they are going to cut back on their warr again too... Some day down the road, they will increase them again, just like they have many times in the past...

SR

 

[Ford850]

Warr have been going up and down since I was a kid, it's a sales gimmick...

I read that GM stated, the longer warr program didn't help their sales enough to keep it, so they are going to cut back on their warr again too... Some day down the road, they will increase them again, just like they have many times in the past...

SR

Bingo!
No different than Walmart's price "rollback" gimmick. Up and down the prices go, like a rollercoaster. They point out how they are helping you as they "rollback" prices they jacked up months ago.

 

[Fordman1981]

You can still purchase a lifetime warranty from ram on the gas engine trucks. I don't remember how much it is. I think in the $2,000 range and price can be negotiated. It was discussed a while back in the power wagon forum. The lifetime warranty they offer is really good too. Even covers ball joints. I have had really good service out of my rams so haven't bothered with it. Some of the guys in the power wagon forum have heavily modified trucks and ram still honors the warranty.

 

[Ford850]

A lot of people do. Go look at used trucks that are two/three years old. Most have 50-60k on them.

That was part of my point. Most who put a lot of miles on there trucks trade them in every few years anyway. There's always exceptions, but what percent of truck owners drive over 100k miles in 5 years and still have the same truck? I'd guess less than 1 or 2%, except for commercial use.
I do keep mine for 10+ years. I average less than 12k per year, so the warranty expires based on years for me anyway. I don't buy extended warranties, for anything. I save the money and consider myself self insured when it comes to that.
I'm not trying to defend Fiat or any of the brands. I think they all have used the warranties as a sales gimmick long enough that people weigh that too heavily when buying a vehicle. Go read the Ram forums and see how many guys thought they had a 100k mile warranty only to find most things that go wrong with their trucks are not covered under that warranty anyway. Gimmick.

 

[Diamondpilot]

It was at 5 years or 100k miles. How many of you put over 60k miles on your trucks in 5 years? How many buy new trucks and keep them for more than 5 years?

We do. My 2013 Ford has 71,000 miles and my 2012 F150 has 60,000 miles. Neither has been in the shop period. No warrant work, recalls, ect. Both trouble free.

Chris