Ram vs Dodge/Chrysler - how complete is the separation?

[newbury]

Has RAM even started to become a separate brand, like I think of Kenworth or Mack or is still just a misspelling of Dodge/Chrysler?

 

[DarkBlack]

Stellantis - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[Hay Dude]

Stellantis formed in 2021 when Fiat Chrysler merged with the French PSA Group.
Ram’s been its own separate brand since 2010.
You thinking of buying one?

The 1/2 tons are built in USA
the bigger Rams are assembled in Saltillo, Mehico.

 

[ruffdog]

Dodge and Ram.....there is no separation. The CEO of Dodge is the same person that is the CEO of RAM. They are just different name plates of Stellantis.

Stellantis Media - Timothy Kuniskis.

 

[Hay Dude]

“ Ram Division President Fred Diaz stated, "Ram trucks are not a Dodge model. Ram will always be 'vinned' (Vehicle Identification Number) as a Ram. “

Just because the CEO is the same, doesn’t mean they can’t be separated, so I guess there’s that.…..

 

[Tinhack]

VIN doesn't hold up. Look at GM, GMC, Chevrolet, Pontiac, Buick, Cadilac, Oldsmobile, Hummer, Caterpillar, Daewoo, Opel, Isuzu, Saab, Holden, Vauxhall, Bedford and probably a half dozen more I can't think of at the moment. They are all GM but one CEO who happens to be a woman named Mary Teresa Barra.

 

[bigtiller]

In the beginning, wasn't Ram just a trim level for the Dodge pickup?

IIRC, around 1981 we could buy a Dodge pickup or a Dodge Ram pickup.

 

[Midniteoyl]

In the beginning, wasn't Ram just a trim level for the Dodge pickup?

IIRC, around 1981 we could buy a Dodge pickup or a Dodge Ram pickup.

Ya, they were the 'D Series' before that

 

[DarkBlack]

Ram…
…At least it’s not a Silverado.

 

[5030]

Don't really matter what is on the badge, all built in the same plants, by the same workers. Just a badge and nothing more, except the sticker price that is.

Gee, just think, pretty soon, you'll be able to purchase a Chinese electric car, made in Mexico and imported tariff free in the good old USA. Isn't that exciting?

Only separation is the badging and it will always be that way. You cannot segregate when they are all built in the same plants. Not gonna happen despite what the makers tell you, all propaganda for the gullible masses.

 

[5030]

I'd say there is segregation when it comes to Suburban's however. All Suburban's are built on their own dedicated assembly line in a GM plant of course (Warren Assembly) and nothing else 'Yukon' or GMC Denali are not run on that assembly line, just Burbs and Burbs are larger than the other's as well.

 

[Chilliwack Murray]

Like everyone 15 years ago who drove a Saturn, not a GM.

You can stick a Ram nameplate on it but it’s got same parts it had before and still rusts like a Dodge.

 

[Hay Dude]

Ram…
…At least it’s not a Silverado.

Ever owned one?
All kidding aside, I am not brand loyal, like “kubota freak” or “blue oval” brand loyal, and I can say with complete certainty this is the best diesel truck I have ever owned.

Still love owning/driving it 4+ years after buying. Never owned a diesel truck like that and I’ve owned a dozen Powerstrokes and a few Duramaxs.

When I buy my next truck, I will buy the truck that works best for me. It doesn’t matter which brand it is.

I was ready to buy a Ford F-600 Superduty, but no crew cab.

 

[Hay Dude]

Like everyone 15 years ago who drove a Saturn, not a GM.

You can stick a Ram nameplate on it but it’s got same parts it had before and still rusts like a Dodge.

That’s just false. They don’t “rust” anymore than any other brand. Rust is primarily caused by owner neglect and driving in salt or wet locations without rinsing off.

Ram is a brand and is not a Dodge.

 

[deserteagle71]

That’s just false. They don’t “rust” anymore than any other brand. Rust is primarily caused by owner neglect and driving in salt or wet locations without rinsing off.

Ram is a brand and is not a Dodge.

Just for you, Hay Dude!

 

[Hay Dude]

Cabin/occupant area looks pretty in-tact!

 

[Hay Dude]

Note Ram & Dodge ranked separately (#1 & #2)

 

[sd455dan]

“ Ram Division President Fred Diaz stated, "Ram trucks are not a Dodge model. Ram will always be 'vinned' (Vehicle Identification Number) as a Ram. “

Just because the CEO is the same, doesn’t mean they can’t be separated, so I guess there’s that.…..

That’s just false. They don’t “rust” anymore than any other brand. Rust is primarily caused by owner neglect and driving in salt or wet locations without rinsing off.

Ram is a brand and is not a Dodge.

I don't get this fascination? over the Name difference, the Ram has been an emblem since what the 1920's?

Our 03 and 04 say DODGE on the tailgate and RAM on the doors. Both HD models , Cummins powered out of the Saltillo Mexico plant.
Both well built trucks holding up well. I have said this before and still believe it. RAM concentrates on the basic HD drivetrain being solid and reliable first. Switches and ancillaries, dash plastic not as much,
but the basic rig will pull a load, day in day out with the Cummins.

I was complaining about poor starting the other day, New batteries and all is good again.
14 years on a battery before replacement on a diesel truck is not bad.

 

[Hay Dude]

I don't get this fascination? over the Name difference, the Ram has been an emblem since what the 1920's?

Our 03 and 04 say DODGE on the tailgate and RAM on the doors. Both HD models , Cummins powered out of the Saltillo Mexico plant.
Both well built trucks holding up well. I have said this before and still believe it. RAM concentrates on the basic things being solid. Switches and ancillaries not as much,
but the basic rig will pull a load, day in day out with the Cummins.

I was complaining about poor starting the other day, New batteries and all is good again.
14 years on a battery before replacement on a diesel truck is not bad.

I don’t either

 

[CliffordK]

I believe they share some parts between Dodge, RAM, Chrysler, and Jeep. For example several vehicles may have the 3.6L Pentastar engine. I think some FIAT heritage is also creeping in.