Ram vs Dodge/Chrysler - how complete is the separation?

[Snobdds]

Straight six beats V-8 in tractors & trucks.
Its is the best diesel configuration you can buy in a light, medium, or heavy duty.

Duramax is a nice V-8

Attaboy

 

[Hay Dude]

Come to think of it, I have 7 diesel diesel powered pieces of equipment.
5 are in-line 6’s, one in an in-line 3 and another is an in-line 4.

None are “V“ configuration and I didn’t custom order one of them and no V configurations were available.

 

[DarkBlack]

Do note these new V6's, even the standard edition, make way more horsepower and torque than today's 5.7L V8 Hemi, as configured for pickups:
5.7L V8 Hemi: 395 HP / 410 lb-ft
Std. Hurricane V6: 420 HP / 468 lb-ft
HO Hurricane V6: 540 HP / 521 lb-ft

You’re a bit confused.
The new powerful engine is a “straight “ aka.. inline 6 cylinder. It’s not a V6.
The old lower powered Pentistar V-6 is only going to be used for recharging the battery on the hybrid truck, and maybe but not likely low end engine option

 

[WinterDeere]

You’re a bit confused.
The new powerful engine is a “straight “ aka.. inline 6 cylinder. It’s not a V6.
The old lower powered Pentistar V-6 is only going to be used for recharging the battery on the hybrid truck, and maybe but not likely low end engine option

lol... oops! Actually, not confused, but in such a habit of typing "V" that I didn't even catch myself doing it.

I'll go back and fix it now, but it doesn't change the numbers, the new 6 has more peak power and more peak torque than the old 5.7L Hemi V8, in truck configuration. Of course, they don't publish the power and torque curves nearly as much as talking about peak numbers. I suspect the 8 has a wider power band, but I'd be happy to be surprised on that, hoping this new 6 holds above the V8 over most of the rev range.

 

[Hay Dude]

I’m more happy with the way ICE emissions has been minimized, while power has been maximized through free capitalism competiton.

Now it’s all being taken away.

 

[Hay Dude]

You’re a bit confused.
The new powerful engine is a “straight “ aka.. inline 6 cylinder. It’s not a V6.
The old lower powered Pentistar V-6 is only going to be used for recharging the battery on the hybrid truck, and maybe but not likely low end engine option

That is true.
In-line sixes produce tremendous torque
They also tend to run longer before failure because their crankshafts have more bearing support.

Goodbye V-8’s!

 

[Snobdds]

Come to think of it, I have 7 diesel diesel powered pieces of equipment.
5 are in-line 6’s, one in an in-line 3 and another is an in-line 4.

None are “V“ configuration and I didn’t custom order one of them and no V configurations were available.

You sound like the expert on V configurations...being bad.

 

[Hay Dude]

You sound like the expert on V configurations...being bad.

Well, mine were all pretty much junk.

I’ve had Ford 351’s and 460’s. I think at most they made 230HP? Maybe 390 ft lbs?
Then I had probabaly 6 different 7.3L “Power” strokes that made about 210HP and 500ft lbs. Nothing really to write home about.

Then I had 3 different 6.4L powerstrokes that made good power but suffered horrific reliability and repair issues.

Had 1 Duramax with a V-8 that made nice smooth power…THAT was a nice engine.

Now in a Cummins in line 6 that will outpull any of those engines with ease.

All my farm tractors are in-line six. There’s few, if any ag tractors with V-8’s….. My BMX X-5 is a in line six twin turbo. That thing‘s got some gitty-up.

The pattern is there. I know what I’m talking about. All the manufacturers are going to in-line engines and making the V-8 part of history of the more inefficient engines we’ve been subjected to.

 

[Snobdds]

Well, mine were all pretty much junk.

I’ve had Ford 351’s and 460’s. I think at most they made 230HP? Maybe 390 ft lbs?
Then I had probabaly 6 different 7.3L “Power” strokes that made about 210HP and 500ft lbs. Nothing really to write home about.

Then I had 3 different 6.4L powerstrokes that made good power but suffered horrific reliability and repair issues.

Had 1 Duramax with a V-8 that made nice smooth power…THAT was a nice engine.

Now in a Cummins in line 6 that will outpull any of those engines with ease.

All my farm tractors are in-line six. There’s few, if any ag tractors with V-8’s….. My BMX X-5 is a in line six twin turbo. That thing‘s got some gitty-up.

The pattern is there. I know what I’m talking about. All the manufacturers are going to in-line engines and making the V-8 part of history of the more inefficient engines we’ve been subjected to.

Mine have been fantastic.

I don't know where that leaves the conversation.

 

[ruffdog]

I was not a fan of the in-line engines in the Saturn cars nor the in-lines in the first gen Colorado/Canyon trucks. I think engine design and proven durability trumps cylinder configuration. I have had great V's and inline's and very poor ones of different manufactures. Sometimes they get it right, sometimes not.