Anyways, made a long road trip with the company van to deliver some bumps to a rolling road simulator at an engineering facility in the south last thursday. it weighs 1700kg (3750 pounds) and has a 900kg (2000 pounds) payload, and there is a 2500 pound version of it. A pretty standard Euro van. Its weight to cargo capacity ratio makes any half ton pickup a laugh..
You will get no argument from me on the poor cargo load capacity of the new Ram, that's pitiful But I still think they all have their place, EPA or not.
Renze, one of the most practical vehicles I have ever owned was a GMC Safari van (GMC version of Astro). We had one of those for almost 13 years. The first one for 3yrs (bought used) and the second (bought new) for 10. It had the 4.3L Vortec V6 and pulled our 17ft Comfort Lite trailer very well, in all but extreme grades. The Safari was rated 5,000 towing and our trailer weighed about half that, loaded. We took it to a campground in the local mountains one time, and the road had some very sharp switch back turns, and the last one before the camp was approx. 10-12% grade right after a very sharp turn, in other words, zero chance to get any speed up, and it almost didn't make it. Had it not pulled it up, the trailer would probably still be in those hills, cause there was nowhere to back down. I learned a LOT from that little trip.
But back to the van, both rear bench seat came out and would leave a cave to camp in, and I used it as my hunting vehicle on many trips. They were offered for a short time in an AWD version, but a true 4WD would have been fantastic. Any time I see these huge Ultra Off Road vehicles (
EarthRoamer) now, I always think of a 4WD version of those vans as smaller version.
Now Equip an Astro with true 4WD hi/lo Tcase, and a 3.0L turbo diesel, and you do have an ultimate utilitarian vehicle.