Rarer/less-known/different welding rods I have

[LD1]

Well, not really I have, but have access to at work.

I was cleaning out the welding supplies at work and came across some different rods that I have never heard of. So ofcourse I googled them and did a little reading, but I am more curious as to you guys' experiences with these rods or if you have ever heard of them.

They are the following

Super Missle Rod (red flux)
x-ergon #106 (grey flux)
eutectrode 680 (blue flux)

So...what say you'all about these rods and when/where have you used them? how did you like them?

 

[Gary Fowler]

I have never heard of any of them. Any AWS classificationa and SFA numbers on them

 

[kevinj]

Missle weld is some type of maintenance rod for various metals ( I have some and have only used a couple rods) and is made by Harris if you want to look it up

 

[Shield Arc]

I have run tons of the Super Missile Weld. We used it for welding cast steel, (not cast iron). It is a high class 312 stainless steel. I'm guessing around $35.00 a pound.

Super Missileweld | The Harris Products Group

 

[LD1]

I have never heard of any of them. Any AWS classificationa and SFA numbers on them

Nope

Ineresting though, the x-ergon 106 has a MUCH higher tensil and yield strengths than 7018, and not sensitive to moisture, and welds like butter:thumbsup:

One may then ask: why isnt it popular like 7018

Well, the reading I have been able to find is that rods like these I mention are propritary and use some "secret" recipe, and thus without wanting to give that away, these rods arent certified and can not be used for "code" work as a result. Even IF they may be a better and stronger weld.

I did do some fooling around sticking metal together and breaking it, and all 3 above plus 7018 and really wasnt much difference in any of them as far as strength. This was in a simple butt weld with 1/8" gap and 1/4" plate. Welded one side only and then broke in the vice with the hammer bending the weld back over itself(weak direction). Again, not a noticable difference at all in terms of strenght IMO. But of all of them, the super missle weld was probabally the easiest rod to lay. It laid down like a 6013 or 7014 would.

 

[Shield Arc]

But of all of them, the super missle weld was probabally the easiest rod to lay.

Seems as I remember it being a pain to weld vertical up. But I could be wrong, last time I used any must have been 1988.

 

[LD1]

Seems as I remember it being a pain to weld vertical up. But I could be wrong, last time I used any must have been 1988.

That could be. I only did a horizontal flat with it and it was nice.

We dont do much out-of-position welding at work. Everything is usually dont in the shop on the bench where it can be rolled around to get "in-position". And we mostly mig stiff anyway. We rarley use the stick anymore since we modified the mig to be hoisted in the air with a forklift. Cause before that, any high work was stick because the leads on the mig only reached so high. Now the stick is reserved for only old and dirty, or cast.

 

[yomax4]

I have run tons of the Super Missile Weld. We used it for welding cast steel, (not cast iron). It is a high class 312 stainless steel. I'm guessing around $35.00 a pouSuper Missileweld | The Harris Products Group

Supper Missile is in fact a 312 SS with a fancy flux. Heavily priced for the nich market. 120K tensile flows like mercury. We always sold it to weld steel to cast steel or other dis similar metals. I have a bunch I would sell but you can buy Stoody Versalloy for $8.00# and it's the same rod.

 

[LD1]

Supper Missile is in fact a 312 SS with a fancy flux. Heavily priced for the nich market. 120K tensile flows like mercury.

That makes it a tougher rod than even the popular 7018. Nice.:thumbsup: And dont have to jump through hoops to store it. I couldnt find the tensile strength on it. But I didnt look hard either

 

[yomax4]

I used to sell all the Harris products. Some of the more nich or smoke -n - mirrors material was Welco 52, Al-Core and Cor-Al for Aluminum, 14FC,17FC for silver brazing with gaps. All the Ni Rods. 28,55,65,94,99. All fun to sell but they all have 1/2 price equivelants in other brands. I still have tons of this stuff as well as various Silver Solders and fluxes.