SteveInMD
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Try ASTM F976-08 and F852-08. California EPA also lists the colors as Red, Yellow, and Blue.
You've mentioned a few ASTM standards, however standards are not the same as regulations. There would need to be a rule somewhere saying when and who needed to comply with the standard.
Where does California list these colors?
FTG-05
I don't see what where the confusion is.
That was quite obvious.
ASTM applies to manufacturers, not users, of portable fuel cans. Hence, someone who makes a fuel can to ASTM specs has to meet the color (and other) requirements for a portable fuel can.
Wrong. If you want to make your own fuel container you have to comply with ASTM per the DOT. Then you will have to submit the container and specifications to your state approving agency for certification and if you meet the DOT, EPA, etc., requirements you can use it.
Also for me if I use the 55 gallon drum for my tractors fuel I do so at my own risk as my state laws do not allow it no matter what color or material. Other users should check there local and state laws concerning fuel storage on there properties.
Users can use whatever they want or can get (like military fuel cans).
This just isn't worth answering. Don't forget to save your used milk jugs.
The question, from one poster here, was where are the requirements that state that he, as a user, has to use a specific color fuel can for a specific fuel.
DOT requires portable fuel containers to comply with ASTM standards period. That means, red, yellow, blue.
Absent state regulations, there are no national requirements, USDOT doesn't have them - that I've found, if you have, post the USDOT regulation - and ASTM doesn't apply - for users.
First and for the last time, ASTM applies if you are going to make or use your own fuel container and for manufacturers of resale containers.
Every state has regulations governing the use of approved containers and I suggest that you call yours or look it up. The states regulations all/most come from the the federal regulations.
49 CFR is one of your national governing requirement on fuel containers by the DOT. Also do not forget the EPA has requirements as well and so does OSHA in their 1910 and 1926 series publications. For the purpose of this thread the PFC's under 5 gallons are not governed by OSHA but by DOT but the storage containers that are larger can be cover under many agencies, DOT, OSHA, EPA, and your state.
Now clear?
It has been crystal for me, but I hope it is for you now.
You've mentioned a few ASTM standards. Standards don't equal regulations.
OSHA rule apply to the work place, not the home. 49 CFR covers all transportation including pipelines and railroads. Exactly which part would apply in this case? I still haven't seen a specific reference (a CFR reference would look something like...49 CFR 101.134(c)).
I can't say absolutely that no rules exist, but we can't have a meaningful debate unless someone can produce an actual rule.