RE: Tractorless

[2thdoc]

RE: Tractorless

I have been receiving via email some feedback regarding the post I made a few days ago and would like to state the following:

In retrospect, maybe I shouldn't have mentioned the specific brand of my tractor. Maybe I just got a bad one, maybe it was poorly prepared, perhaps I over worked it. I used the implements the dealer sold me with the tractor, and I would expect that it should be able to handle them. I had hoped that I bought a tractor that would do what I needed it to do at a considerable savings over one from the big three, albeit, without all the creature comforts. However, such was not the case. I think competition is good; the little Chinese tractor has the potential to compete with a tractor from the big three if people have a good experience with them. Believe me, I would have loved to have gone on the compact tractor boards and told how great my Chinese tractor was, if indeed it were so; in my case, and perhaps mine alone, it wasn't.

 

[markcg2000]

I read this, then re-read the original thread. You have nothing to apologize for. I hope none of the email coming your way was of the "flame" variety. I didn't see anything wrong with what you said - it's what happened to you. We all love to know how the other machines out there are working... it's the only way to get info on how the units really are, as opposed to how the dealer wants us to feel about them.
You also seemed to have worked within its supposed range of capabilities. Even if you'd overworked, you would have at most shortened it lifespan, not destroyed it in no time.

Keep the posts coming, man. Don't get discouraged.

 

[JohnS]

There was nothing wrong with mentioning true experiences or the brand. Will miss your posts at CTOA.

 

[jinman]

2thdoc, you have to tell the negative in addition to the positive about all tractors. If I sell you a tractor that is $4,000 cheaper and breaks, that's no deal at all. Where is the rule that says because it is a grey market tractor you are supposed to accept poor performance. The only acceptable difference in the grey market I would be willing to accept is fit and finish. Believe me, there are things about New Hollands I hate (I've broken the mounting shafts on two "deluxe" joysticks and finally gave up and made my own fix.)

...and don't think I haven't noticed that my username is but one letter off from the name of a Chinese tractor. /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif/w3tcompact/icons/grin.gif

 

[frank_f15]

MIKE : TELL it like it is! thats what most of us on this site want to hear. the good the bad and the ugly, NO MATTER THE NAMEBRAND.

 

[looch]

To do anything less than what you did would undermine the purpose of visiting this board.

I wonder why these people chose to e-mail you and not post under the original thread./w3tcompact/icons/hmm.gif

Keep it real.

 

[TBone]

You had an excellent post about a bad experience. <font color=blue>Keep up the good work!</font color=blue>

TBone

 

[ewoss3]

I'm glad you shared your past experiences with us, I was leaning toward some other machines when I first started looking but now I'm really glad that I made the right choice for me. Keep those reports coming

 

[Tractor_Barn]

Did you post your experience on John's survey? If that was your post, you seem to be the only person listed that bought a tractor form that dealer. Hmmmm...

 

[2thdoc]

Yes, that was my post. The people who I bought my tractor from said that they have sold several of them and that they just haven't had many major problems out of them except for mine. I hope for anyone else who may have bought one that's true.

 

[JohnS]

As I mentioned before, I'm all for straight up and honest reporting of issues, no matter what the tractor, implement, or whatever, brand and dealer name is. Many times people exagerate their problems and may not give the whole story. This is not one of those. Also, with honest reporting of issues, goes the responsibility to honestly evaluate those particular issues. Over at the CTOA board, 2thdocs issues have been discussed in detail, both on and off line. Similar to what would probably be discussed here, if it was a more popular brand. Since it was a Chinese tractor, many assume that that is the fault, and except it at that, and go on. Ah, if all things were that easy!.

Many of his problems can be associated with a new inexperienced dealer of these tractors, others such as electrical items, can not. Do I know this absolutely, of course not. But there is strong evidence to support that.
What is true, is that the Chinese sell these tractors to whomever can buy them. They do not provide a strong support network. Each dealer/brand has to learn what is needed on their own, or gain it from others that have been dealing with them for years. Some, unfortunatly think you can just bolt them together, and shove it out the door. They won't be around very long. This is something that any buyer that is looking at these tractors needs to understand and evaluate before buying. As with many things, the experience and capabilities of the dealer mean more that where it originated at. While my "Jinma Info", on my website, alludes to this, I think I will write a paragraph or two specificly on the subject.

2thdoc, I'm sorry that your Jinma experience did not end well. The $1000 off of the purchase price seems fair. I wish the best of luck with your new purchase, whatever brand/dealer you end up deciding on. This is an excellent forum, that will provide any support you will need.

 

[Tractor_Barn]

A follow up to John's post...If it weren't for the CTOA board and it's posting from very experienced dealers and users, I would have never considered buying, let alone selling, these tractors. It was their help and experience that helped my decision. I've had many discussions, on and off line, with these folks and cannot say thank you enough times for their honest and frank answers to my questions...You know who you are and again...THANK YOU. Vince