We have some Californian members here what do y'all see on the ground there? I'm on the other side of USA so I just know what I read about the place. How many and what stores have closed?
Real interesting. To catch a thief on rural property.
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JDZ735M
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While we are waiting:
Shoplifting in San Francisco is so out of control that retailers are closing stores
Walgreens has closed 17 of its stores due to rampant stealing, and CVS has called the city ‘one of the epicenters of organized retail crime’
www.independent.co.uk
California Stores Closing Early As Unpunished Theft Explodes
Retail stores in San Francisco, Los Angeles, and Sacramento are shortening their business hours amid a surge in organized retail theft.
thefederalist.com
Of course the bigger chains who close 17 stores generate the headlines in stories but I wonder how it affects the small mom-pop stores who are really hit pretty hard when some thief can just walk in a out with a $900 basket without fear of going to jail.
GeneV
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Oh, this guy! His channel is craaaaaaazy haha!
Here's a fun vid of his:
Here's a fun vid of his:
Thanks for the links! I would like to hear from some locals with first hand experience though.While we are waiting:
Shoplifting in San Francisco is so out of control that retailers are closing stores
Walgreens has closed 17 of its stores due to rampant stealing, and CVS has called the city ‘one of the epicenters of organized retail crime’
California Stores Closing Early As Unpunished Theft Explodes
Retail stores in San Francisco, Los Angeles, and Sacramento are shortening their business hours amid a surge in organized retail theft.
Of course the bigger chains who close 17 stores generate the headlines in stories but I wonder how it affects the small mom-pop stores who are really hit pretty hard when some thief can just walk in a out with a $900 basket without fear of going to jail.
A quote from one of your links.While we are waiting:
Shoplifting in San Francisco is so out of control that retailers are closing stores
Walgreens has closed 17 of its stores due to rampant stealing, and CVS has called the city ‘one of the epicenters of organized retail crime’
California Stores Closing Early As Unpunished Theft Explodes
Retail stores in San Francisco, Los Angeles, and Sacramento are shortening their business hours amid a surge in organized retail theft.
Of course the bigger chains who close 17 stores generate the headlines in stories but I wonder how it affects the small mom-pop stores who are really hit pretty hard when some thief can just walk in a out with a $900 basket without fear of going to jail.
"This has been a problem going on for years,” CEO and president of the California Retailers Association Rachel Michelin said in a statement.
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I'd be interested to find out the name of the store that reported that to the police so I could avoid ever stopping there for any reason.
ponytug
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The $950 number is from San Francisco, where the mayor is currently at odds with the city council over "cleaning up" the city. The tension is that the individual neighborhoods want something other than jailing drug addicts, but aren't willing to fund it. The mayor looks bad from all the crime, and the police are between a rock and a hard place. There is a mix of individuals stealing items to resell near the store (Poverty, addictions...), and organized crime raids on high end stores by tens of individuals to overwhelm security who are stealing for resale online. (And that gets to be an interesting mix of folks, snapping up a "good deal", and active money laundering. (And just how does that person in East Dulwich come to have 10 Gucci bags anyway?))
Whether the store closures are due to shoplifting, or being low profit stores, or just plain so old that it isn't worth the cost to renovate is anyone's guess. A number of them are locations that I know were bought during the acquisition of another chain, many of which haven't been upgraded or spruced up since (2008), and they were rather dated (think '60s styling) to begin with.
Much of the pro "lock 'em up" lobbying in California is, as Gomer would say "surprise, surprise", the prison employee unions and the jail owners. California is one of the most expensive places to incarcerate individuals, right behind New York, and multiples of what it would cost to put people in vocational school or college. Personally, I wish jail was more of a deterrent, or better at reforming folks into good citizens, but with a 43% two year recidivism rate, it has a way to go. There have been a bunch of studies on what works to reduce recidivism, but locally at any rate, we aren't doing it. E.g. California has a program to train prisoners as firefighters, but then won't let them apply to be firefighters after release as they have felony convictions. (Under an emergency waiver at the moment, they can.) Don't get me wrong; I know that there are bad apples out there for whom the right place for everyone is in a cell, but for the others, we can do better.
All the best,
Peter
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JDZ735M
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Could one of those spikes break off the rear wheels and hit the driver in the back?
JDZ735M
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Heck, better yet, go organize a demonstration in front. Wear all black and carry sticks and molotov cocktails. Just kidding. But, they will never miss your business.
GeneV
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Could it now! Or how about getting your leg too close to one of those wheels? Yeh, lots of fun things could happen there.
