Regeneration Mode

   / Regeneration Mode #11  
Wow, i just learned something, never buy a tractor with regen.:cool:
Then again, I never had anything new in my life except for my CCM mustang bike.:eek:
 
   / Regeneration Mode #12  
Even worse is the lifespan of this stuff.
Every time a regen occurs it becomes a bit less efficient so the regen cycle keeps getting shorter. Eventually you have to replace the whole thing and they are not cheap!
 
   / Regeneration Mode #13  
BTW - Mendonsy - I think your avatar is cute. Makes me laugh.
 
   / Regeneration Mode #14  
I thought it was only a couple min but mine hasnt done it yet
im only at 11 hrs
 
   / Regeneration Mode #16  
It is a problem for me to not be able to do whichever task I would like, whenever I would like with my tractor.
Plus the extra fire hazard, expensive extra maintenance items, reduced efficiency, and I have to pay extra for all this???

Tractor with DPF, not for me.


On our LS XR4046HC, if regen mode starts just keep on working. LS indicates that if you are working hard regen cycle completes faster. The thing you have to be careful about is if, for instance, you are in very dry grass you might want to cancel regen if you have the low exhaust since exhaust temperature is elevated significantly. I was about to move a round bale on front bale spear today when regen started. Removed bale spear, installed pallet forks and went onto next task. No problem.

Tier IV Regen mode has never got in the way here.

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   / Regeneration Mode #17  
It is a problem for me to not be able to do whichever task I would like, whenever I would like with my tractor. Plus the extra fire hazard, expensive extra maintenance items, reduced efficiency, and I have to pay extra for all this??? Tractor with DPF, not for me.


The regeneration cycle take 3-5 minutes and other than issue raised above you just keep working. If you are somewhere that high temp exhaust gasses might be a problem you just postpone the regen. cycle until later. No big deal? You can still do what you want, when you want to do it.

No "extra maintenance items", no "reduced efficiency" and no DEF fluid to add.

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   / Regeneration Mode #18  
Some people have stated regen might take as much as 45 minutes, and it is not recommended to interrupt it, once started?
What if I am just about done with the tractor and regen starts? I have to leave it revving itself for as much as 45 minutes? This does not seem efficient. Would that also reduce engine life?

What if I am doing a job that does not require high RPM and regen starts and starts revving the engine? How efficient is that?

No extra maintenance items and no reduced efficiency? How about the DEF filter? You know they don't last forever, and yes, after each regen they are less efficient. They are not cheap either.

Also, more you plug up an engine, less efficient it gets, there is no argument here. Your regen procedure starts exactly because your DEF becomes plugged up.

I don't even want to talk about fire hazard, as we all know how red hot exhausts affect dry hay.

And to have all of the above you have to pay more??


The regeneration cycle take 3-5 minutes and other than issue raised above you just keep working. If you are somewhere that high temp exhaust gasses might be a problem you just postpone the regen. cycle until later. No big deal? You can still do what you want, when you want to do it.

No "extra maintenance items", no "reduced efficiency" and no DEF fluid to add.

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   / Regeneration Mode #19  
Some people have stated regen might take as much as 45 minutes, and it is not recommended to interrupt it, once started? What if I am just about done with the tractor and regen starts? I have to leave it revving itself for as much as 45 minutes? This does not seem efficient. What if I am doing a job that does not require high RPM and regen starts and starts revving the engine? How efficient is that? No extra maintenance items and no reduced efficiency? How about the DEF filter? You know they don't last forever, and yes, after each regen they are less efficient. They are not cheap either. Also, more you plug up an engine, less efficient it gets, there is no argument here. Your regen procedure starts exactly because your DEF becomes plugged up. I don't even want to talk about fire hazard, as we all know how red hot exhausts affect dry hay. And to have all of the above you have to pay more??

As stated before my LS takes just a few minutes, not sure where you are getting the 45 minutes? My LS does not Rev up engine for regen. mode.

Think you need to stay with Tier 3 tractors, all the Tier IV hype out there, mostly BS, has you in fear. Perhaps you might go sit down with some tractor dealers that truly UNDERSTAND tier 4 to get the truth.

Some light reading; Ahead of the Curve: Small Tractor OEMs Embrace Tier 4 - Farm Equipment


My Tier 4 LS has never kept me from doing anything including having to leave tractor running for 45 minutes. Sent from my iPad using TractorByNet
 
   / Regeneration Mode #20  
I know the way the newer trucks are designed when they do regeneration (burn more fuel at high Temps to save the environment? Ummm, ok) you aren't suppose to know when it's happening.
I just took off all my dpf filters and egr on my duramax and wow its a completely different truck. Milage is up and more reliable. I'll never be convinced that all this epa stuff is good for the motors
As soon as somebody can find a way to do this to the tractors I'll upgrade to tier IV
 

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