Regeneration Mode

   / Regeneration Mode #21  
So far mine has not gone into regen, but only a few hours. So far my truck has not gave me any grief, 6.7l F350. I'm hoping my tractor will be just as trouble free.
 
   / Regeneration Mode #22  
The regen cycle depends on the tractor. On my Kubota, the soot is collected in a ceramic filter that works just like an air or oil filter except that it is not disposable. I can set the computer readout on my dash to read percentage of filter use. When it reaches 100% and if I have my tractor in automatic mode, I will only know the regeneration is in process by a flashing yellow light saying it is regenerating. No difference in power (although a slight power drop can be detected on a dynamometer) and it takes about 15 minutes. If for some reason I need to stop working during a regen (change boxes when I am chopping hay for instance), the computer will keep the tractor from throttling down to low idle (it holds about 1600 rpm). Once the regen is complete the yellow light stops flashing and the display shows the DPF 0% filled with soot. I don't notice any loss of power as the DPF fills. I still chop more haylage per hour and per gallon of diesel than my brother-in-law. We always operate in the same field, same model chopper, but he has on older Tier1 tractor while I have a Tier4 interim. The filter burns out the diesel particulates virtually completely but engine oil does leave an ash after regeneration. This is why Tier 4 engines require CJ-4 oils - they are formulated for reduced ash. My book maintenance is have the DPF cleaned every 3,000 hours. The local shop that cleans filters will do my size filter with normal ash content for about $200. Of course if something fouls the DPF like running a lower spec oil the cleaning cost will be higher. Kubota says my tractor will go 13 hours between regen cycles at 109% power but mine have varied from 18 hours to 35 hours. That indicates I am not working it to their max duty cycle.

From what I read here the smaller tractors must use a less capable system. I have neighbors with an M7060, a M135GX like mine, and a M100GX. Two have over 1,500 hours, one is at 400 hours, and the smallest one is at 150 hours. None have had any regen problems although all of us have at least one time forgotten to press the auto button prior to at least one regen but noticed the flashing yellow light telling us a regen was needed, pressed the auto button, and went about our work. The one neighbor who got a New Holland and was worried about Tier 4 says the same thing. He has a larger operation and hires ex-mine heavy equipment operators for drivers (we are in iron mining country). They fight over who gets to run the new tractor. When they fill with diesel they top off with DEF while the fuel tank is filling.

I had planned to ditch my L5740 for a L6060 at the end of winter simply to get the Tier 4 final engine but Kubota dropped their zero for 60 program in favor of zero for 48 and my wife is pushing got a pickup replacement this year. You all now also have me worried that the system of the L's might not be as good as that of the larger M's so it may be wise to hold off another year and get more input.
 
   / Regeneration Mode #23  
The regen cycle depends on the tractor. On my Kubota, the soot is collected in a ceramic filter that works just like an air or oil filter except that it is not disposable. I can set the computer readout on my dash to read percentage of filter use. When it reaches 100% and if I have my tractor in automatic mode, I will only know the regeneration is in process by a flashing yellow light saying it is regenerating. No difference in power (although a slight power drop can be detected on a dynamometer) and it takes about 15 minutes. If for some reason I need to stop working during a regen (change boxes when I am chopping hay for instance), the computer will keep the tractor from throttling down to low idle (it holds about 1600 rpm). Once the regen is complete the yellow light stops flashing and the display shows the DPF 0% filled with soot. I don't notice any loss of power as the DPF fills. I still chop more haylage per hour and per gallon of diesel than my brother-in-law. We always operate in the same field, same model chopper, but he has on older Tier1 tractor while I have a Tier4 interim. The filter burns out the diesel particulates virtually completely but engine oil does leave an ash after regeneration. This is why Tier 4 engines require CJ-4 oils - they are formulated for reduced ash. My book maintenance is have the DPF cleaned every 3,000 hours. The local shop that cleans filters will do my size filter with normal ash content for about $200. Of course if something fouls the DPF like running a lower spec oil the cleaning cost will be higher. Kubota says my tractor will go 13 hours between regen cycles at 109% power but mine have varied from 18 hours to 35 hours. That indicates I am not working it to their max duty cycle. From what I read here the smaller tractors must use a less capable system. I have neighbors with an M7060, a M135GX like mine, and a M100GX. Two have over 1,500 hours, one is at 400 hours, and the smallest one is at 150 hours. None have had any regen problems although all of us have at least one time forgotten to press the auto button prior to at least one regen but noticed the flashing yellow light telling us a regen was needed, pressed the auto button, and went about our work. The one neighbor who got a New Holland and was worried about Tier 4 says the same thing. He has a larger operation and hires ex-mine heavy equipment operators for drivers (we are in iron mining country). They fight over who gets to run the new tractor. When they fill with diesel they top off with DEF while the fuel tank is filling. I had planned to ditch my L5740 for a L6060 at the end of winter simply to get the Tier 4 final engine but Kubota dropped their zero for 60 program in favor of zero for 48 and my wife is pushing got a pickup replacement this year. You all now also have me worried that the system of the L's might not be as good as that of the larger M's so it may be wise to hold off another year and get more input.



I have the l4060 and the reg is easy I start the tractor push the auto button. When it reg it takes about 15 mins. Love the tractor now at 104 hrs of Pure joy.
 
   / Regeneration Mode #24  
Visited my dealer today and talked with their chief mechanic. They have been having problems with regens on the smaller tractors. One, the regen doesn't work well when cold (like the -10 to -30 F temps we've been having) so they have blocked off almost all of the radiators in order to get them to run hotter. Also, operators of the small tractors tend to run at lower RPM and the system needs a higher rpm to regen properly. He said that after a few improper regens the DPF the tractor will no longer run so he has to make service calls to reset the system so for now they are doing more operator training before delivering but it looks like Kubota has come work to do on the smaller tractors. Also they have changed the default on tractors like mine to auto regen which makes sense although I understood the intention of starting out in manual - to prevent a regen starting in a building where the heat could potentially risk a fire.
 
   / Regeneration Mode #25  
I have yet to notice a regen cycle on the L4060. I push the auto button when I am going to use the tractor. I think there is about 42 hours on it now. Maybe it did it when my dad was doing grapple work by me a month ago. I will need to check if my dash display can tell me the percentage left.
 
   / Regeneration Mode #26  
Just wondering, is it just the new Kubotas that have this regen,
or do all the new machines have it, Deere etc, etc.
 
   / Regeneration Mode #27  
Mahindra seems to have the answre on their new 2015 models in regards to the TierIV compliance.... Common rail multy port direct fuel injection is the partial answer as stated. No DPF! But they use a Diesel Oxydation Catalist (DOC). Is there a catch, or is it truly a genuine answer?
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Upon reading this I may as well start a new thread:dance1:
 
   / Regeneration Mode #28  
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This was my third time regen
 
   / Regeneration Mode #29  
Just wondering, is it just the new Kubotas that have this regen,
or do all the new machines have it, Deere etc, etc.

My dealer told me that all new diesel tractor engines rated over 26hp are required to DPF'd...Thus my B2650 does Not have it, but the B3350 does.
 
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   / Regeneration Mode #30  
Thanks for that, kanook, what part of eastern Ont. are you from, if I may ask.
 

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