removing the arm from the stabalizers in order to change the leaky rings

[Annette75]

i have a case 580 ck
we already ordered the parts to fix it
what i need to know is how exactly to take it apart
i do not know all the technical names for parts so i need someone with some patience to help
all i need is for someone to help me figure out what to do step by step
and i have a guy who is going to just do what i tell him to do...
so...that being said...my first question on where to start...do you need to drain all the hydraulic fluid
first?
second question...should the stabalizers be up or down when doing this?

 

[medic0648]

Best recommendation is to get a service manual and follow it.

 

[RedNeckRacin]

Best recommendation is to get a service manual and follow it.

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It will pay for itself the first time you need to look something up. I would assume you are going to remove the whole cylinder and that to me would say stabilizer down that way there is not potential energy and the cyliner will be layed out nicely in front of you. You are going to need some serious torgue to get the nut off the rod though. If you have never done it before you are going to have to get extremely creative getting it off or just take it somewhere. Most places will usually rebuild a cylinder for under $200

 

[medic0648]

Just a safety FYI. Put the stabilizer down, turn off the tractor, and then move the controls back and forts a few times to make sure there isn't any pressure in the lines.

 

[DT86]

I agree with putting all attachments on the ground, turning the engine off and cycling through all the functions before doing anything else.

As for draining all the fluid, no. You'll only loose the fluid between the valve and the cylinder. If you can create enough slack in the hoses they can be tied up, with the ends as high as the valve, you won't loose as much. Or just have a bucket ready to catch it.

I again agree that it can be a pain to get the nut or cap off. I've seen them so tight that a piece of steel had to be welded to them to use as a lever, as a pipe wrench would just spin. No need to worry about ruining the seals and wipers with heat since that is what you'll be replacing anyway.

 

[Annette75]

ok...that sounds good...we are looking into getting the manual...but for now...
we aren't going to drain the fluid
we are going to put the stabalizer arms down...
do you have to remove the entire yellow cylinder to take out the inner cylinder?
like can you just undo the top part and pull the cylinder out?
the top looks easier to take off...
the bottom has that "c" clip on it and we have the tool to remove them...
but if i have to remove the whole thing...after u take the "c" rings off..what do u do next...smack it
to get the pin out?

 

[RedNeckRacin]

If you have never done this before, Im going to suggest again to get the manual or take it to a cyliner shop. Its not very expensive to have a cylinder repacked and by the sounds of things, may be in your best interest. Those "c" rings are snap rings if you are referring to the thin metal bands with the hole on each end that holds the pins in.

 

[medic0648]

Usually helps if it won't come out by pushing with something other than your fingers and rattling the cylinder around. Once it is off it'll be easier to work on it on a clean table keeps the parts separated and clean. Also will need a vice and plenty of clean rags.

 

[Annette75]

yeah...but this is long island...everything costs an arm and a leg...even with us buying the parts..the guy still wanted $250 a cylinder...and we have 4 to do...i think i need to attach some pics tomorrow so i'm less confusing lol...how about this...is there anything that we can screw up that might cause something to shoot out and take an eye out or something? if so...what?...and how do you avoid that?

 

[Annette75]

yeah...but this is long island...everything costs an arm and a leg...even with us buying the parts..the guy still wanted $250 a cylinder...and we have 4 to do...i think i need to attach some pics tomorrow so i'm less confusing lol...how about this...is there anything that we can screw up that might cause something to shoot out and take an eye out or something? if so...what?...and how do you avoid that?
p.s. just got a 30 pound box of new rags today!!