Repainting a skidsteer

[ray66v]

I agree with the photo's clearly being printed in such a manor to enhance the before and after.
and I also tend to distrust a company that finds it necessary to push it to the point of being deceptive to sell their product.
Here is the reality of this product, it will have the exact same effect as taking a garden hose and wetting the item your working on. If simply adding some gloss is all you want, then you may want to use it. However if the item is very dirty, discolored, scratched and rusted, it will be simply putting lipstick on a pig.

 

[phoenix1979]

You two gentlemen are both right AND wrong. Yes, he did have to adjust brightness and contrast to make them look the WAY THEY DID when the pictures were taken. I've been to his office and seen letters from the people who took them. THEY say that the adjusted pics on the web were exactly as they saw them when they took the pics. Understand, these are just working guys, sometimes with cheap disposable cameras taking the pics. They are NOT professional photographers. I've even seen one pic, of vinyl siding, that I personally was to the man's home and the pic doesn't look nearly as GOOD as the siding in real life. His explanation was he's not much of a picture taker. Remember, I saw it with my own baby blue's.

If you want to have a critical doubting attitude that's fine. There will always be closed minded people in the world, more so with all the corruption and waste that we see in government, business, church, the military and the list goes on.

But, when you impugn the character and the professionalism of a friend, who makes a product that I personally have used several times, (and my equipment is not lipstick on a pig, sir, maybe yours is all pigs) I have to say WHOA! Say what you want, think or don't think as you wish, but I posted IN GOOD FAITH something which I KNOW works with my own eyes.

I suppose all the body shops that spray clearcoats on cars to make them look great are just wasting their time. That's what a clearcoat does, it makes faded paint look new, NOT rust, paint. Or, it makes the base coat which is flat, have deep color and gloss when the clear top coat is put over it in their body shop. The SAME EXACT thing Vivilon does, only better, quicker, safer and more inexpensely. That's all, no cure for cancer, just a simpler way to do what every name brand paint company does without the insults and innuendo.

 

[ray66v]

I suppose all the body shops that spray clearcoats on cars to make them look great are just wasting their time. That's what a clearcoat does, it makes faded paint look new, NOT rust, paint. Or, it makes the base coat which is flat, have deep color and gloss when the clear top coat is put over it in their body shop.

If you read my post that is EXACTLY what I said:
"Here is the reality of this product, it will have the exact same effect as taking a garden hose and wetting the item your working on. If simply adding some gloss is all you want, then you may want to use it."

This is EXACTLY what clear coats do, they add gloss. ANY flaws, defects, scuffs, dirt, etc. will NOT magically be fixed by applying clear. I KNOW I HAVE SPENT 30 YEARS DOING IT. If the item is very dirty, discolored, scratched and rusted, it will be simply putting lipstick on a pig. DO YOU UNDERSTAND NOW??

I have also spent my whole life as a photographer and can clearly see the fact that ALL the before pictures are printed lighter and washed out and ALL the after pictures are printed darker and more saturated. Maybe you cannot see that, but, I can assure you as the previous poster said we can. And we have a right to our opinions.

If you feelings are hurt because we see what we see, based on what you friend is showing us, thats your problem not ours.

 

[john_bud]

Phoenix,

Welcome to TBN. Thanks for posting a link to a product you know and like.


I do think that after reading your reply, YOU may want to type slower and let your emotions calm down before hitting the "enter" key. The internet is full of products that have glowing claims and less than stellar results. I'm sure you agree with that (if not, you may want to stay away from ebay...). Folks here are going to say what they think. Most all are fair, open minded and objective --- but they will say what they think is right.


You should also understand that with only a few posts, your history here is unknown, people are not going to give you carte blanch trust. That has to be earned. I don't expect to be given that and that's after a couple more posts that you have currently. Here's my final tip, if you disagree with a post - reply with verifiable facts, links, or other support for your position, never with negative words to the poster.

Hope you stick around and enrich our community.

jb

 

[DirtyWorks]

........never mind. ^ He said it all ^

 

[DirtyWorks]

Has anyone had any luck having equipment professionally refinished, not just spray and go, and if so did the paint last as long or just chip off? Whats the average cost to re-sticker (decal pkg)?

 

[ray66v]

Has anyone had any luck having equipment professionally refinished, not just spray and go, and if so did the paint last as long or just chip off? Whats the average cost to re-sticker (decal pkg)?

It is possible to duplicate the factory finish on equipment. I do it for myself all the time. But, as discussed, it is very labor intensive and material costs are so high, it is not realistic to have it done. Therefore, most of the time corners are cut resulting in an affordable but, not as long a lasting job.

 

[john_bud]

I think that most places have stickers fairly cheap for newer equipment. Hundred bucks, maybe 2 for the set. Manuals usually show where they go.

As Ray66v said, duplicating the factor finish is doable. Except for maybe the powder coated ones (?). The time it takes is just crazy stupid for the most part as the factory paints them without all the stuff in the way. So, getting all that stuff off (and clean) and back on is a pain. That's why so many auction tractors have painted spark plug wires, heater hoses, tires, etc. Urethane paints are tough and work well for industrial applications, but you MUST HAVE safety equipment or you can damage your lungs.

I personally would rather see rust and chip's patch coated, leaving the bulk factory paint. It makes me nervous to see shiny new paint on an old piece of equipment - when buying. Makes me happy to see it on a contractors rig when I'm paying him.

jb

 

[Industrial Toys]

I asked a body shop to repaint the tailgate of my Diesel Mule, a while
back, when having work done on my truck. I thought, they would give
me a deal, but the charges were ridiculous!

Cleaning up old equipment is a costly proposition. And if you hire someone, they will likely just paint over grease!

The first thing is to make sure the equipment is worth it. I have spend a lot of time and energy fixing up a landscape trailer! Not time or money well spent. Maybe it's worth fifty bucks more then if I hadn't!

I am looking at restoring a self powered, loader mount snow blower, this spring. I will disassamble it myself. Steam clean it to degrease it, and hand it over to a sand blaster who wants $85.00/hour. I rented a mobile compressor once and did it myself, but never again! Then I will paint it, but am not sure how. I have done a lot of it, but tremclad doesn't spray well with an air sprayer, and if you thin it, you loose the shine! Or worse, you just get the occasional shiny spots. I will probably look into some sort of airless commercial equipment. I tried an airless paint sprayer for small, house painting contractors, and that didn't spray the tremclad either!