replace transmission fluid and front axel case oil at 50 hours?

   / replace transmission fluid and front axel case oil at 50 hours? #21  
When I worked in the automotive industry extended service intervals were introduced to entice sales. The thinking was people/businesses would look at the total cost of ownership being lower. Do what the book says for warranty do what you want for peace of mind.
Yes, I remember spark plug change intervals used to be often... I used to pull to clean them. I now don't even know where they are in my truck.
 
   / replace transmission fluid and front axel case oil at 50 hours? #22  
The way I understood the maintenance requirements for my B2620 was engine oil and filter plus trans filter at 50 hours,this is according to the maintenance chart in the owner's manual.I also changed the hydraulic filter as well but not the trans fluid.I did change the front axle fluid as well because it has no filtering system,it looked quite dirty.
 
   / replace transmission fluid and front axel case oil at 50 hours? #23  
Yes, I remember spark plug change intervals used to be often... I used to pull to clean them. I now don't even know where they are in my truck.

One word... Iridium. Unless it is a diesel, in that case call off the search.
 
   / replace transmission fluid and front axel case oil at 50 hours? #24  
Our local dealer, who has to service lots of Kubotas, as they are a huge dealership with three lots, has strong opinions on the front axle. When I bought a tractor from them 5 years ago and when I recently purchased another, I got the precisely the same recommendation from the service manager as the machines were being prepped.

"The axle housing is a axle/gear box and should be filled with gear lube". When I mentioned that the manual allows for either gear lube or (S)UDT, the service manager shook his head. "Nope. Dump the axle at 50 hours and re-fill with gear lube and get that crud (break in metal particles) out of there".

I mention this because I don't hear much on this forum over the years about this. But, it always seemed like good advice and I've always done it, as the service manager recommended. Dump the front axle at 50 hours, as if it were break-in fluid and refill with gear lube. I chose synthetic 75w-90. For what it's worth, that's just one man's experience.
 
   / replace transmission fluid and front axel case oil at 50 hours? #25  
Our local dealer, who has to service lots of Kubotas, as they are a huge dealership with three lots, has strong opinions on the front axle. When I bought a tractor from them 5 years ago and when I recently purchased another, I got the precisely the same recommendation from the service manager as the machines were being prepped. "The axle housing is a axle/gear box and should be filled with gear lube". When I mentioned that the manual allows for either gear lube or (S)UDT, the service manager shook his head. "Nope. Dump the axle at 50 hours and re-fill with gear lube and get that crud (break in metal particles) out of there". I mention this because I don't hear much on this forum over the years about this. But, it always seemed like good advice and I've always done it, as the service manager recommended. Dump the front axle at 50 hours, as if it were break-in fluid and refill with gear lube. I chose synthetic 75w-90. For what it's worth, that's just one man's experience.
excellent advice except for one type of front axle - an axle with a limited slip differential. I can't even tell you which brands or models have the design but some limited slip diff shave friction plates. Carraro is an axle manufacturer that supplies axles to dozens of companies. Many of their limited slips use friction disks and gear lube deteriorates the friction material. If the manual says hydraulic oil (UDT) or gear lube I will always go with synthetic gear lube. I mention this because one of my accident investigations involved an operator driving up and down a 30 degree embankment. He let his fuel level get to low and the engine died. The machine had a spring applied hydraulic release parking brake but when it applied, the friction faces were so deteriorated they sheared off and he took a wild ride backward down the dole and about 100 yards into small trees before they stopped the heavy machine. In this case it was the owners fault because we called out in bold type never to use gear lube in the drive but they did.
 
   / replace transmission fluid and front axel case oil at 50 hours? #26  
I'm an "old guy". Got to love those old experienced guys. Just have to. We stand up for "this is how my grand dad did it, this is how my dad did it and by golly this is how I'm going to do it and my kids and grand kids and every body they know is going to do it the same way because it has always worked.....except for the times it didn't.
I'm an "old guy" by the calendar. If I were a "real" old guy I'd still change my car/truck oil at 3000 miles and cringe now when I don't. Start sweating at every mile over 3000. Can't hardly sleep, can't quit watching the odometer and every mile over 3000 makes my heart skip a beat. I've also won't get in a car with over 60000 miles and for sure will never drive one. I see ads for vehicles for sell with over 100,000 and even over 200,000 miles and I just start laughing that anyone would believe that anyone would pay a cent over scrape metal money for them. My younger friends, aquaintenances just shake their heads and line up for my used vehicles when I decide to sell them. I remember when a vehicle with 60,000 miles had to be pushed just about every time you wanted to start it, smoke boiled out of the tail pipe and those new fangled automatics took about 12 guys pushing at 45 mph to ever get one started. Course we all changed our oil at or before 3000 miles. Wonder how vehicles are getting over 60,000 miles now and idiots only changing the oil at 4500, 6000 and even 7500 miles????:eek:
My daughter told me a guy at a gas station told her to quit filling her gas tank when it automatically shuts off and don't keep trying to get more gas in it. Some men think women are stupid and will believe anything and that's what I told her when she told me about it.:thumbsup: BUT.....later I was watching Motor Week and Pat Goss the Master Mecanic that studies, apparently, new ways instead of sticking with the old ways said to quit filling your gas tank when the pump kicks off:eek: :eek::eek: because the dreaded EPA doesn't want gas fumes polluting the air and made auto manuf remove the drip tube at the gas filler hole and make the over flowing gas return to the engine via a tube that goes thru a filter (a very expensive filter) that gets ruined if it gets saturated with gas thus stop filling the gas hole when the pump quits.:ashamed: :ashamed: I did tell my daughter that I was giving her good advise but the stranger at the pump gave her more up to date advise.:)
Now I'll listen to "old guys" and often times will ask them the basis for their sage advise, even when they do it for a living and have for years and may even be the head mechanic, computer master, etc, etc. They often times get hot with me and then I know that mostly they don't really know why they do it other than they always have or someone told them to years ago that knew what they were talking about.
Now we can blame the government, enviromentalists, money grubbing Companies, aliens, karma, Mom, Dad or even sister but we have to listen to someone concerning "stuff" we don't know about. I've bought 17 Kubotas in 11 years and I've read a lot about Kubotas and talked a lot with owners and a dealer and the dealers mechanics and still feel I'm not as knowledgeable about Kubotas as I would like to be and hope to eventually know more. How many people have given me "crap" advise as if they rec'd it from God Himself.... several, so I'm a skeptic when listening but I will listen along with research and asking more than one person and then sit down and ponder the info I've come up with.
Guys, things change and at such a rapid pace that a specialist that's all knowing is lost in tall cotton a year or a few months or a few days later if they don't do constant ongoing learning.
I change my motor oil, front axle lube, hyd fluids and all filters when the owners manual that was printed for my specific machine and hope it's not just a universal reprinted owners manual that hasn't been revised since 1983. I've only changed one fuel filter and it was because I could see the dissolved parts of the black rubber ring that fell into the fuel tank from around the fuel lid and the motor would keep dying.
Any way, all you "old guys" stick to your story that you learned from a master when you were a teenager and do those changes and what the hay it's cheap insurance especially after paying so much for the machine.:cool2:
 
   / replace transmission fluid and front axel case oil at 50 hours? #27  
"The axle housing is a axle/gear box and should be filled with gear lube". When I mentioned that the manual allows for either gear lube or (S)UDT, the service manager shook his head. "Nope. Dump the axle at 50 hours and re-fill with gear lube and get that crud (break in metal particles) out of there".
I put a container of sudt and gear lube in the freezer and then tried to pour them. Given a choice, it's hard to imagine using gear lube in any climate that experiences winter temps. The large surfaces of gears probably don't care, but seals and bearings must have a tough life at -20F.
 
   / replace transmission fluid and front axel case oil at 50 hours?
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... I've also won't get in a car with over 60000 miles and for sure will never drive one. I see ads for vehicles for sell with over 100,000 and even over 200,000 miles and I just start laughing that anyone would believe that anyone would pay a cent over scrape metal money for them. My younger friends, aquaintenances just shake their heads and line up for my used vehicles when I decide to sell them. I remember when a vehicle with 60,000 miles had to be pushed just about every time you wanted to start it, smoke boiled out of the tail pipe and those new fangled automatics took about 12 guys pushing at 45 mph to ever get one started. Course we all changed our oil at or before 3000 miles. Wonder how vehicles are getting over 60,000 miles now and idiots only changing the oil at 4500, 6000 and even 7500 miles????:eek:

My 2001 Ford Windstar, a notoriously unreliable vehicle (and this one has had it's share of problems since day 1), now has 225,000 miles. Still has the original drive train with no major work ever needed. Oil changes every 5000 miles and transmission fluid change every 30,000 miles per owners manual. I'm probably putting up for sale soon. Would you like to arrange for a test drive? :)
 
   / replace transmission fluid and front axel case oil at 50 hours? #29  
My 2001 Ford Windstar, a notoriously unreliable vehicle (and this one has had it's share of problems since day 1), now has 225,000 miles. Still has the original drive train with no major work ever needed. Oil changes every 5000 miles and transmission fluid change every 30,000 miles per owners manual. I'm probably putting up for sale soon. Would you like to arrange for a test drive? :)

No way!:eek: I wouldn't ride around the block with you in that ready to die any second or way past dying time machine.:D
I fight overcoming past knowledge and lose often. I'm also a Counselor and those past events/memories/stories are a part of us all. Not all are bad but they do shape us and our attitudes and feelings and beliefs and fears.
But a vehicle with over 60,000 miles, no way I can be convinced to get in one. In after thought, I guess in my leaner years I had some scary cars and took off across country in them but not now.:D
 
   / replace transmission fluid and front axel case oil at 50 hours? #30  
"But a vehicle with over 60,000 miles, no way I can be convinced to get in one".

What about a tractor? How many hours on a tractor do you think are high?
 

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