REPLY FROM KUBOTA CONCERNING 50 HOUR FLUID CHANGES

[Volfandt]

Au contraire......
I've had the infamous left front tire leak on my BX23 on both turf and ag tires, from different years too!
I did have occasion to question the local Kubota dealer on what would be the best fill for them and he didn't recommend UDT nor SUDT as he indicated I'd just be dropping the $$$'s since according to him, they'll leak 'till kingdom come.... So he gave me some air to use as the fill.
Now this was before we were informed of global warming so I don't knwo if that air was globally warmed or not but in any case it didn't seem to hold very long at all. It didn't take long before all that free dealer air was gone so I had to come up with a plan B.
I do have an air compressor in my shop which resides in the dark recesses of my shop. The air in that part of my shop is little more dark and dank, which may be a deterient to the global warming but thats another story, and because of this dark and dank atmosphere it's possible that the compressed air produced in that abyss could be better than the free air I got from the dealer. And since it is still cheaper than UDT/SUDT as well whatever grade of oil I use in the engine, yet another story in itself, I decided the occasional refill of those infamous front left tires with my somewhat free dark & dank air would surfice.
Then, having tired of that, I decided to try this amazing product called Slime. Low and behold, I haven't had to refill either front left tire with the dark & dank free air since I used the rcommended doseage as stated on the bottle, brilliant!
Hummm, wonder if this amazing product will work in both the engine and HST

Back to your regularly scheduled discussion

 

[WarrenF]

It makes perfect sense to me to not pay any attention to the reccomendations from the manufacturer. Rather follow the postings, even though confusing and contradictory, made by all of those experts who have never manufactured anything.

Regarding the tire leaking problem....make sure you have the Johnson Rod attached to the Mickleson shaft, which will ground down the isolation capacitor. Your tires will stop leaking

 

[bp fick]

I'm still thinkin' you switch that left front tire to right and confuse the little bugger!!

 

[JOHNTHOMAS]

Au contraire......
I've had the infamous left front tire leak on my BX23 on both turf and ag tires, from different years too!
Back to your regularly scheduled discussion

It's looking like it could be the rims then instead of the tires. Anyone else have the famed one front tire on the BX leaking that has other than turf?

 

[thavil]

It's looking like it could be the rims then instead of the tires. Anyone else have the famed one front tire on the BX leaking that has other than turf?

I have a leaky (before Slime) left front Traction Master R4 on my BX24.

 

[TripleR]

It's looking like it could be the rims then instead of the tires. Anyone else have the famed one front tire on the BX leaking that has other than turf?

Mine were R4 and I am on my third one.

 

[wawajake]

Up here in Canada I have a BX2660 2008 came with the farm tires (not turf) and persisitent slow leak on front wheel . Slime slowed it down , but has never completely been solved.

Originally I went so far as to take wheel of and completely submerge the whole unit into a large pail and still unable to see air leak.............

 

[drag_slick]

This is funny... I've got a 1850 that had a slow leak on the left front too, turf tires. Tire shop couldn't find anything so I just tubed it.

 

[JOHNTHOMAS]

Looking like it may be a rim instead of the tires. I had one on, I think the BX2200 6 years ago and tubed it. Had one last year on the BX2350 so traded it, the BX2350, not the tire but that didn't work, the BX2660 I traded it to also has one that leaks every time I go back to use it. I'm between sliming and tubing it, can't decide.

 

[sw03]

I didn't understand what in your post makes you not trust manuals. The BX24 and BX2350 are the same tractors, almost and it appears that this is when Kubota implemented the change, during the production of these models. I've never changed a fuel filter yet but maybe I haven't kept a tractor long enough and I follow the manuals. I did change one on a Gas Kubota that the rubber filler cap lid ring had fell into the gas tank and stopped up the filter but never on any of my diesels. In my mind Kubota had studied and planned to make the service interval change for years. One day they did it. There has to be an ending minute and starting minute some where on almost any change and it appears one minute old manuals were produced and the next minute new manuals were produced. Date of purchase could have been different since the tractors are shipped all over and some dealers sell 10 a week and some dealers sell 1 in 10 years. Barlows has a new tractor that hasn't been made in 5 years that another dealer couldn't sell so it has been shipped to him to sell. Someone can probably get a great price on it if they want a 5 year old new tractor with full warranty and 0% interest. I didn't.

Easy since the engines and tranny are 99% the same as my old BX22.. There are alot of diffs between the two. I know the 22 had more services that my 24 does not. Then the dealers (some) state other things no in the book. Again, I trust manuls very little. They are a very general guide, that is all.

 

[Ace3]

Question?

How does a post about "50 Hour Fluid Changes" get hyjacked into discussing flat tires????

 

[bp fick]

Hijacked? Nah!! It's the exact same thing. Fluid change- tires. All the same.

Cause the OP hijacked his own thread, shoot, he can't keep a tractor more than six months, how do you expect him to keep on topic for more than a day or two?

 

[JOHNTHOMAS]

Question?

How does a post about "50 Hour Fluid Changes" get hyjacked into discussing flat tires????

Easy. Some times references are made to clarify an answer then the reference becomes the topic. It happens frequently. It appears that I stayed on topic but added some other information for examples which it seems others wanted to discuss and who am I to determine what others want to discuss? .

While getting ready for Church today, I pondered this situation a bit more thoroughly. I think I have it figured out! Those of us that have BX's or a bunch of us that have BX's know that one front tire/rim is bad. I figured out that Kubota had bought a bunch of bad rims or tires and for some reason they didn't get the supplier to replace them. Maybe the supplier went bankrupt. I believe they have 2 stacks of mounted tires for the front of BX's.The stack of good ones and the stack of bad ones. Now they only put one bad one on each machine because you rarely hear of anyone having two that go flat on the front, just one. I believe what they done on the change over was planned at the beginning of the run on the BX24 and BX2350 that they were going to supply the new manuals indicating no SUDT fluid change at the first 50 hour service. Now, don't quit on me yet, I'm getting there. When change over time came some idiot in publication ordering had ordered more of the old manuals or the publisher did not make the changes and it wasn't caught until mid run. So as with the run of bad BX front tires the company to save money continued sending out new machines with the old manual until all of the old manuals were depleted then started sending out the new manuals. Therefore we have BX24's and BX2350's with different manuals. Now they got rid of all them old manuals by the time the BX25 and BX2660 came out so all of them will have the new manual. Now this is how my mind works and this is what I think happened until someone comes up with a better theory or the Company Rep calls or writes me something different. Now I have started thinking again after having stopped for a few minutes and I now believe my theory will be quoted in future forums as "The Kubota representative said (my theory) I read it/heard it or saw it.

 

[JOHNTHOMAS]

For those that want to know what the original post was, here it is so we're back to the beginning for those that jump in at the end or middle or those control "freaks" that want to stay on topic.


I sent Kubota Corp an email requesting a plain answer concerning the need or lack of need for first 50 hour change of SUDT fluids in my specific tractors, being a BX2660, a BX25 and a F2680E. Looks like I reached a plain talker and here is the response from Kubota.

John, the person or persons from TBN do not know what they are talking about. There has not been a Service Bulletin or even a notice sent to the dealers that this is a mistake in the Operators manual. Kubota Tractor recommends for you to follow your Operators manuals for servicing of each unit you have.
The BX2660 and the BX25 do not have to have the transmission
fluid change until it reaches the 400 hour mark.
For the F2680, it is the 200 hour mark. The transmission oil filters need to be replaced and the suction strainers cleaned at or before the 50 hour mark for all three units.
Your selling dealer can also assist you if you have any questions in
regard to servicing your tractors. Thank you for purchasing and contacting
Kubota Tractor Corp..

 

[radioman]

~WOW!~ you guys got the worse case of the cabin blues I ever seen. going nuts with each other before spring comes along.


John thomas- you sure got your mind wound up, overthinking. What's next?

 

[bp fick]

~WOW!~ you guys got the worse case of the cabin blues I ever seen. going nuts with each other before spring comes along.


John thomas- you sure got your mind wound up, overthinking. What's next?

It can't come soon enough.

 

[JOHNTHOMAS]

~WOW!~ you guys got the worse case of the cabin blues I ever seen. going nuts with each other before spring comes along.


John thomas- you sure got your mind wound up, overthinking. What's next?

This is my answer and I'm sticking to it: WOW!~ you guys got the worse case of the cabin blues I ever seen. going nuts with each other before spring comes along.


I know Radioman is trying to get us off topic again but I'm not falling for it. This is about the first 50 hour service.

 

[GMtb42]

L2800 , 50 hour , manual says change engine oil , replace engine oil filter, Hydraulic Oil filter replace , Transmission Fluid (same as Hydraulic) change , Front axle case oil change , Clutch adjust .
Page #38

 

[JOHNTHOMAS]

L2800 , 50 hour , manual says change engine oil , replace engine oil filter, Hydraulic Oil filter replace , Transmission Fluid (same as Hydraulic) change , Front axle case oil change , Clutch adjust .
Page #38

What year is your L2800?

 

[dodge man]

Stange, I have a BX2350 turf tires and the left front has a slow leak. I finally got tired of it and slimed it a couple of weeks ago. As of yet I don't know if that helped or not. I also got my manual from the old stack, that says change the tranny fluid at 50 hours. I don't buy into John Thomas theory, but I guessing that they have a problem area on the rims.