Rethinking Kioti products

[k0ua]

My lights come on for all the ranges(L,M,H,N). I'm just getting ready to go drag the road, and I'll check again.

Same here, on my DK35se. The light are controlled by the range selector potentiometer, and its voltage changes are integrated by the cruise module. There is a known failure mode of the cruise module in low temperatures. My original cruise module had this failure. The replacement module does not have this problem. This potentiometer is attached to a bellcrank that is attached to the range selector lever.

 

[TJP89]

I interesting thing is that the only thing not working is the lights, everything that runs through the cruise module (which has a nasty history here) is working fine. My dealer did say something about the lights always shorting out on the non cab models, so that may be the issue. Personally, the fact that some of the lights don't work isn't a big deal to me, as everything else works.

 

[Industrial Toys]

I spoke with a long time experienced sales man from a Big Ag Dealer last week. He said they used to be a Kioti dealer, so I took the opportunity to ask him what his impressions were. His biggest beef, as he put it was not being able to "get blood on the line" at Kioti.

 

[kevin37b]

All these little tractors are pretty good . Some better than others depending on configuration and use or abuse . The dealer is the absolutely the most important of the purchase . J.D . Kubota , Kioti , Mahindra , all good . With a non cooperative dealer it is the beginning of the end .

 

[blucoondawg]

Range selector lights work on my dk50se hydro bought in may 2012. Haven't had any d dash issues just ignition switch and a relay so far

 

[k0ua]

But we know the lamps and wiring in the dash is not "shorted out" whatever that term means. as the dash has been substituted into a working tractor and been proven to be in good working order.

 

[Coyote machine]

Once again a thread jumping on Kioti about basically nothing one can possibly comprehend.:confused2:
Two Kioti's, same dealer, no warranty? Wiring shorted? Dash bad? Potentiometer issue? What is it?
It's customer service issue - or isn't it?

Reality is the DK-40 range selector displays the range the tractor is in for the HST model. Either H M L, or N. This lights up on dash according to the position of the range selector. Period.

If it isn't displaying the correct range selection it can be adjusted per the service manual. If the display is not illuminating then there is a problem in the circuit that completes this function. Simple logical deduction of the circuit is needed by a tech who knows how to troubleshoot!:confused3:

People can come on here and say whatever they want about customer service and the dealer being the most important part of a tractor purchase. Maybe true for tractor brands with significant issues and repairs needed after sale; BUT I can guarantee one that with few exceptions the Kioti brand stands behind its customers time and again. The few exceptions are mostly communication related between customer, their dealer, and sometimes the US HQ. And since I've been on TBN, since May, 2009, with ownership of 2 Kioti's and close to 2000 hours of hard work on the tractors, Kioti has been working hard to establish a network of reliable dealers in the US. That means some, if not many may be dropped to replace with more dedicated or better more knowledgeable dealers, etc. This is an industry wide issue - getting things done right in the US. All tractor manufacturers deal with this issue here because of workforce, costs of staying in a labor intensive field in this economy, etc.

Rather than slamming HQ to no avail; try asking for help from TBN's 'Team Kioti', comprised of dedicated folks like KOua and me, and many others who dedicate ourselves to getting things fixed right the first time, and will follow issues to their satisfactory outcome. Anything else is just a waste of time and like spitting into the wind.

So give details, year, hours, exact problem description, attempted fixes, etc. Then let us help you get what you came here for: solutions.

Now state your case, clearly and concisely...

Thanks,

CM

and 'Team Kioti':thumbsup:

 

[ritcheyvs]

I just looked at a couple different EX45hst (which I believe to be the same as the DKxxSE) schematics and one shows only the neutral light connected while the other shows all (LMHN) lights connected. Maybe this is just a documentation error (there are plenty of those) but maybe Daedong changed the configuration during the production run.

More: I just took another look at those EX schematics in an Apr 2007 manual. There is a US/AU version and an EU version. In the US/AU version, all four lights (LMHN) are used. In the EU version, only N is connected. In all cases, one side of the lamp always has 12v (when switch is on) and the cruise unit supplies a ground to the other side of the appropriate lamp.

 

[k0ua]

I just looked at a couple different EX45hst (which I believe to be the same as the DKxxSE) schematics and one shows only the neutral light connected while the other shows all (LMHN) lights connected. Maybe this is just a documentation error (there are plenty of those) but maybe Daedong changed the configuration during the production run.

Ritch it appears this is one place our EX manuals do not match up with the DK actual wiring. I will guarantee all that the L M H and N lamps do and should light up on the DK series.

 

[Coyote machine]

Both my 2008 year production DK-35SE/HST and my 2010 year DK-40SE/HST do and always have lit up throughout the range.
EX manuals are not NA market tractor details....