Rigging 101 needed please

[Ken45101]

^^^ A few years back, a truck and trailer were stolen locally with a dozer on the trailer. They missed a stop sign at US68 and went over the enbankment and rolled the rig. The dozer remained attached to the trailer (or the trailer remained attached to the dozer?) I guess the original operator had it properly secured ;-)

 

[daugen]

well, if you think about it, if it overturns it's likely just to land on its side, not do an end over end like a car might. :shocked:
So it's skidding down the road, and unless it turns over far enough the top of the tractor hits, which wouldn't be hard, well at least on a modern tractor one has a ROPS which might protect it a little. Cab tractors might need a little polishing...

yeah, give that operator an attaboy. I bet it greatly reduced the damage to the dozer.
I wonder how many chains he had on that dozer...four, six?

 

[newbury]

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(2) Each of the tiedowns must be affixed as close as practicable to the front and rear of the vehicle, or mounting points on the vehicle that have been specifically designed for that purpose.

Is that a quote or a retype? How do you affix as close as practicable to the "front AND rear"? Shouldn't that be "OR"?

 

[dave1949]

Is that a quote or a retype? How do you affix as close as practicable to the "front AND rear"? Shouldn't that be "OR"?

.... as close as practicable to the front and rear of the vehicle, ...

I think AND is correct. It could be re-written this way: as close as practicable to the front and as close as possible to the rear of the vehicle

OR would imply one end or the other. They obviously want both ends tied down and it makes sense to do the tying as close to the ends as possible.

 

[daugen]

Is that a quote or a retype? How do you affix as close as practicable to the "front AND rear"? Shouldn't that be "OR"?

CFR › Title 49 › Subtitle B › Chapter III › Subchapter B › Part 393 › Subpart I › Section 393.130
49 CFR 393.130 - What are the rules for securing heavy vehicles, equipment and machinery?

 

[downsizingnow48]

I had similar questions last year getting ready to move from Virginia to California. Studied DOT regs, California regs, Virginia regs. Read everything I could find here on TBN, which is the most practical and thoughtful source of information I found. Made the trip with B21 and implements on a 14k 20ft equipment trailer (total 8600 lbs). Tow vehicle was 2012 F150 and I used a weight distributing hitch. I was within spec on payload, pulled weight, combined vehicle weight, and tire loading. On the load, I used new G70 5/16 chain throughout and new 5400 lb binders too (I didn't have that stuff before, never needed it). Two chains crossed on the front of the tractor. Two chains, at a 45 degree angle, on the back of the tractor. One chain on the backhoe bucket to keep it from flopping sideways, one chain on the loader (not sure why). One old logging chain wrapped around the two stabilizers to keep them from drooping. Then one chain on each implement. Straps on tool boxes, spare tires, some other stuff. It was a full load and well secured. I was scrutinized by passing highway patrol officers in every state on the six day trip, but never stopped. I did get a walk around inspection at the California border station but no issues were raised there either. I checked the chains every couple hours for the first two days of the trip and had to re-tighten frequently. After two days everything stayed tight for the rest the trip.

 

[daugen]

downsizing, sounds like you did your homework and did a nice job on the move. I have the same thing coming up for me at some point, likely a ten hour interstate drive through at least three states. I need to go down and look over the rental trailer to see what it provides for fastening equipment. I now have four 3/8 chains and four 5400 and higher binders, but I only have light duty straps. Hesitant to buy them, they seem to come with different ends, before I look at the trailer. I also have a nice single axle utility trailer and that will get used too for moving, but that I have a ton of good straps for.

not only does it have to work, but it has to look like it will work too...or Officer Bob will see a revenue opportunity.

 

[downsizingnow48]

Exactly. And why I crossed all the Ts etc. if your rig and load look good Officer Bob will go for easier pickings.

 

[newbury]

just get a few good 2" straps and make sure you have something to use as a "strap protector" for the inevitable sharp edge. I just use folded pieces of cardboard, though I've heard sections of fire hose are ideal.
Get at least one spare strap. I've had a load shift slightly and the new angle on the strap started it wearing badly. Immediately put a spare strap on.
And ALWAYS bring rope and duct tape.
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just get a few good 2" straps

IN ADDITION to all of your other equipment.
Also figure out how you are going to figure out tongue weight.

I'm CHEAP so I use bathroom scale and lever. Since you are going to be running a 5'ver you might just want to get a dedicated tongue weight scale. I think they can work on 5'vers.

 

[powerstroke444e]

I had similar questions last year getting ready to move from Virginia to California. Studied DOT regs, California regs, Virginia regs. Read everything I could find here on TBN, which is the most practical and thoughtful source of information I found. Made the trip with B21 and implements on a 14k 20ft equipment trailer (total 8600 lbs). Tow vehicle was 2012 F150 and I used a weight distributing hitch. I was within spec on payload, pulled weight, combined vehicle weight, and tire loading. On the load, I used new G70 5/16 chain throughout and new 5400 lb binders too (I didn't have that stuff before, never needed it). Two chains crossed on the front of the tractor. Two chains, at a 45 degree angle, on the back of the tractor. One chain on the backhoe bucket to keep it from flopping sideways, one chain on the loader (not sure why). One old logging chain wrapped around the two stabilizers to keep them from drooping. Then one chain on each implement. Straps on tool boxes, spare tires, some other stuff. It was a full load and well secured. I was scrutinized by passing highway patrol officers in every state on the six day trip, but never stopped. I did get a walk around inspection at the California border station but no issues were raised there either. I checked the chains every couple hours for the first two days of the trip and had to re-tighten frequently. After two days everything stayed tight for the rest the trip.

This what everyone should do even if your just going down the road and for what we all have spent on the trailer, tractor, and truck. Spending an extra 100 on your chains/straps is about price of the tank of fuel you will waist if you had to go back and pick up something if it fell off, never mind the cost if it hit someone.