Your decision to leave should not take him by surprise, either. Any time you change an employee's compensation without their consent and agreement, you have to be prepared for the employee to make a move in their own economic interest, such as leaving.
Right way to quit a job
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crbr
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Word.Double Orange said:
That's the ticket. Never look back on your decision. It's a done deal. The Boss should ge glad for you to be in a position to better yourself. Always resign in writing, whether you talk with him or not. I would put it in writing and serve it personally. Shouldn't take more than 3 -5 minutes to finalize it.
Reread what Frank wrote. It's about you and your family my friend, not your employer. Lack of planning on the employer's part should not constitute a (nicely mannered) sympathetic withdrawal of resignation on your part.
Trust in your Guidance. He will show you the way.
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MikePA said:
It's not sinking to their level. It's doing unto others as they do/ have done unto you.
I wouldn't treat one of my employees like that. If I did ,I would expect them to quit without notice & wouldn't blame them.
If you are actually interested in staying you should determine exactly what it is that you would need to stay. Salary, vacation, benefits, ownership, etc. all need to be considered.
Schedule a meeting with him to discuss your compensation. If he wants to do it over the phone that is OK. He should come to see you but he might not want to.
With as little emotion as possible, tell your boss what you would like for compensation. If he agrees then say thanks and your good to go....as soon as you get it in writing. If he says no, just thank him for his consideration and tell him you will be leaving in two weeks.
Once you have told him you are leaving or looking to leave you don't ever want to change your mind. Regardless of whatever counter offer he may come up with you have to just say "No Thanks" and walk away.
I think you'll be enjoying a new job shortly.
Kevin
Schedule a meeting with him to discuss your compensation. If he wants to do it over the phone that is OK. He should come to see you but he might not want to.
With as little emotion as possible, tell your boss what you would like for compensation. If he agrees then say thanks and your good to go....as soon as you get it in writing. If he says no, just thank him for his consideration and tell him you will be leaving in two weeks.
Once you have told him you are leaving or looking to leave you don't ever want to change your mind. Regardless of whatever counter offer he may come up with you have to just say "No Thanks" and walk away.
I think you'll be enjoying a new job shortly.
Kevin
TwinWillows
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One suggestion, be prepared that when giving 2 weeks notice that you could be told to leave right then. I'd make sure anything personal is removed from the work location prior to giving notice.
After hearing about him taking back the % pay plan I'd second whoever said to listen to the counter offer & then say thanks but no thanks.
Good luck @ your new employeer.
After hearing about him taking back the % pay plan I'd second whoever said to listen to the counter offer & then say thanks but no thanks.
Good luck @ your new employeer.
George2615
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tractorman1234 said:
I think you answered your own question here. It's obvious he thinks you make too much. Meet face to face and explain that your have a better offer, thank him for the years he employed you and give him 2 weeks notice. He's not going to double your salary to make you stay.
Farmwithjunk
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Give 2 weeks notice, in person if possible. Beyond that, you owe nothing more to an employer. You give a days work for a days pay. Simple as that. Be professional. Don't burn bridges. If he wants to lower himself, let him. Maintain your morals and ethics. Never stoop to another persons level if you don't respect them. Later, you won't respect yourself if you do.
As an employer, he has the right to do whatever he so desires with his business. If a decision should wreck his busness, that's his perogative. I've seen cases with my employer, and have also ran into one situation with an employee of my mowing business where employees see things only from their perspective. They might see THEIR logic, but don't see the big picture. Even if you do see things clearer than the owner, it's still his call.
One thing I learned a LONG time ago, don't take things too personally in the business world. It's all about the $$$$$. Loyalty doesn't cash at the bank.
In almost 40 years with one firm, I've seen a BUNCH of good (and bad) employees come and go. Some I know we'll miss. Some I can't hardly hold back my joy when they leave. Bottom line is though, we still open the doors the next day and life goes on. I hate to sound hard core about it, but I believe if an employee isn't happy with his job, what's preventing him from leaving? By the very same token, if we aren't happy with an employee, why put ourselves through the torture? Send 'em packing.
And, again, as someone who's stayed the course with one employer for nearly 40 years, a person owes it to themselves to pursue another path every now and then. At times I wish I would have years ago. Change can be good. Without it, we become stagnant.
As an employer, he has the right to do whatever he so desires with his business. If a decision should wreck his busness, that's his perogative. I've seen cases with my employer, and have also ran into one situation with an employee of my mowing business where employees see things only from their perspective. They might see THEIR logic, but don't see the big picture. Even if you do see things clearer than the owner, it's still his call.
One thing I learned a LONG time ago, don't take things too personally in the business world. It's all about the $$$$$. Loyalty doesn't cash at the bank.
In almost 40 years with one firm, I've seen a BUNCH of good (and bad) employees come and go. Some I know we'll miss. Some I can't hardly hold back my joy when they leave. Bottom line is though, we still open the doors the next day and life goes on. I hate to sound hard core about it, but I believe if an employee isn't happy with his job, what's preventing him from leaving? By the very same token, if we aren't happy with an employee, why put ourselves through the torture? Send 'em packing.
And, again, as someone who's stayed the course with one employer for nearly 40 years, a person owes it to themselves to pursue another path every now and then. At times I wish I would have years ago. Change can be good. Without it, we become stagnant.
escavader
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I too have been in a similar siuation.My last job,was one where i had to "do it all" When the pay checks were late in coming ,i just hated being the one to tell my crew,whom i had worked hard all week ,that there was no money for them.It happened one friday,i stewed all weekend,on monday morning i went in and asked the owner again if the checks had arrived.When i learned they hadnt i did only the absolute nessesities for the day,clockes out 4 hours early and applyed at 4 other competing companys.One of the biggest in our area offered me a job doing the same thing i was doing before,they actually created me a position,even though there wasnt actually an opening.Was it to totally mess up the competion?Was it that they saw great potential in me? I like to think the last.Either way the new companys motives,if you prove yourself to be invaluable and as good as you say you are,youll have nothing to worry about.Change can be good.9 years have past ,and i hold no regrets.
As far as the notice,i was told 2 weeks for a manager,and supervisor,one for a laborer is standard practice.I worked two.
Have your personals out of there or packed up in case things go bad.
I always figuered if I werent good enough while i was there for more money,i cant be bought once im leaving,and ill always stick to that.
If you dont make the change ,youll always wonder what if
ALAN
As far as the notice,i was told 2 weeks for a manager,and supervisor,one for a laborer is standard practice.I worked two.
Have your personals out of there or packed up in case things go bad.
I always figuered if I werent good enough while i was there for more money,i cant be bought once im leaving,and ill always stick to that.
If you dont make the change ,youll always wonder what if
ALAN
markmc
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tractorman1234 said:
Sounds like you have received a TON of really good advice and good on you for asking for it....(in the prescence of many counsellors there is wisdom).
Regarding the new offer. Did you seek it out or did they come looking for you? Doesnt matter either way, just might help you in your quest of "handling it in the right way". What I am saying is that even though you have already made up your mind to leave, you may have residual resentment built up from the former renegotiation of your salary. If you have a face to face and it does get a little heavy, I would be careful that that "resentment" doesnt spill over and completely ruin your relationship. A safer way to approach this is to send a letter of resignation explaining in detail the tough decision and request to meet him in person asap. Not knowing the owners tempermant these meetings can get tricky. Owners tend to take things very personally, they dont mean to but the business is "their baby". Anyway, just be prepared for this and for probing questions.
You have done the right thing by sticking with the owner even after the salary renegotiation BUT you need to put your family and future first....always, never the owners
I wish you well in the future and have to ask you why you dont consider starting your own business...sounds like you would do very well at it, and from the way it sounds you are "wired" this could very well be your destiny! Lots to think about. Good luck and God bless,
Mark
