riptides
Super Member
MikePA said:
Unfortunate it has come to this in this day and age.
The real problem here is that companies really don't know their employees.
Too bad for us all.
-Mike Z.
Right way to quit a job
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Unfortunate it has come to this in this day and age.
The real problem here is that companies really don't know their employees.
Too bad for us all.
-Mike Z.
MikePA
Super Moderator
Or they do and that's why they are shown the door right away. Not to mention if you work at a company of any size (500, 1000?) it's not realistic for companies (whatever that means) to know everyone. Odds are their immediate supervisor and one or two levels up from that know the employee.riptides said:
If 'some people need to be shown the door right away', they should have been shown the door prior to their resigning.
That is no excuse to terminate good employees the same way you would bad ones. Bad ones should have never gotten the chance to resign and if you can't run a company any better than not being able to distinguish who can be trusted during their final two weeks and who can't, you have no business being in business.
FWIW, not all companies are that way. I am fortunate enough to work for one that isn't, and it is an enormous company...tens of thousands of employees, so that issue is manageable regardless of company size.
That is no excuse to terminate good employees the same way you would bad ones. Bad ones should have never gotten the chance to resign and if you can't run a company any better than not being able to distinguish who can be trusted during their final two weeks and who can't, you have no business being in business.
FWIW, not all companies are that way. I am fortunate enough to work for one that isn't, and it is an enormous company...tens of thousands of employees, so that issue is manageable regardless of company size.
My policy is if you quit , and give a two week notice, I ask them to leave, BUT I will pay them for the two weeks, so were both happy, they get the money, I get a non productive employee off the job.
I have NEVER and I mean NEVER observed an employee work the same during the two weeks as they did prior to leaving, why should they.
It's called a short timers attitude, where employees figure ( as people do in prison for life ) " what's the worst they can do to me, fire me", so they slack, and bring down the entire crew. Nope, not for me I don't need it.
I have NEVER and I mean NEVER observed an employee work the same during the two weeks as they did prior to leaving, why should they.
It's called a short timers attitude, where employees figure ( as people do in prison for life ) " what's the worst they can do to me, fire me", so they slack, and bring down the entire crew. Nope, not for me I don't need it.
SnowRidge
Elite Member
MikePA said:
You bet. And some work harder, just because they hate to see something they were working on unfinished.
Of course, if an employee is leaving because of bad management.....
escavader
Veteran Member
I see it both ways in my outfit.Iguess it depends on why you quit.If its a arguement or disagreement with management,ive seen them escorted to the gate.If its another problem such as salary,too many hours etc,the weeks notice gives management time to try to work out the issues with a good employee,and try to keep that experienced dependable worker.AINT THAT THE ONLY WAY TO GET A RAISE-THREATEN TO LEAVE
A little bit of truth to that last joking statement sometimes though.
ALAN
A little bit of truth to that last joking statement sometimes though.ALAN
motepoc
Bronze Member
You know something, almost have to agree with everybody. There are a lot of good points on both sides, and having worked for a company for 33 years, I have seen all the scenerios (sp) mentioned.
1. I think you should meet with your employer and thank them for all they have done for you and wish them well.
2. Tell them you are willing to work at least two weeks, possibly more (for training purposes) if needed, and let them make that decision.
3. If asked to leave right away, leave. Nothing can be gained by arguing.
4. Don't talk about or bad mouth the old job or old boss at new place. It shows what you will do if you leave this job.
5. Just use all past experiences as useful information for present use in determining what choices and options you have in the future.
6. Do the best that you can do all the time, no matter what the situation, because that is the mark of a man, and how you will be viewed throughout you life.
my 2 cents
1. I think you should meet with your employer and thank them for all they have done for you and wish them well.
2. Tell them you are willing to work at least two weeks, possibly more (for training purposes) if needed, and let them make that decision.
3. If asked to leave right away, leave. Nothing can be gained by arguing.
4. Don't talk about or bad mouth the old job or old boss at new place. It shows what you will do if you leave this job.
5. Just use all past experiences as useful information for present use in determining what choices and options you have in the future.
6. Do the best that you can do all the time, no matter what the situation, because that is the mark of a man, and how you will be viewed throughout you life.
my 2 cents
And what planet is this on again? This is the year 2007 NOT 1957.
Actually what is the upside for the employee, PRIDE? You would like to think so, but you also have to learn a lot about human nature. This is a ME society.
Workers now a days are not like the workers in the past, "these kids" take jobs on a whim and leave on a whim, they never had hard times or tough employment.
Jobs at least around here are plentiful, so if a worker one day wants to play around with making cookies one day, then baking bread the next, and then something else again they can, and do do it often - because they can.
Then you get the employee, that figures gee if "HE" can do it so can I, and then they are your competition. I just had a conversation with two guys who were still wearing the shirts from their old company. They started a competing company and are cutting the guys prices in half ( they said so ) - so yea, lets keep these guys around for two more weeks, because they have pride in their work, and by the way the "something they were working on, I bet was the old company's vendor list and customers.
Regularly I have employees approach me to do work "on the side" from my vendors, do they have pride, I don't think so.
Recently a guy had a pool installed, he was the owner/contractor, and the subs working on his pool had the nerve and the audacity to use their employers pool company trucks, and equipment from their employer to put in the pool, "on the side"
Should the pool guy keep these guys on for a few more weeks to satisfy something they were working on unfinished, and by unfinished I mean all the side work they scammed off their employer.
Nope, best all around that the employee be gone right after he finishes his sentence, after all the employer has pride also, or isn't that allowed.
