Ballast Rim Guard and punctures

[Mat4644]

Using liquid ballast in tractor tires.

 

[RandyT]

In an ideal world the tires will be dry tubeless radials . With external cast weight bolted on for ballast . Contrary to what most folks think . There is lots of room for cast ballast on the inside and outside of the tire .

My owners manual states that you cannot use more than 2 55 pound weight per tire. And my loader requires 2300# of ballast. And if you have a backhoe that is only 1300# so were do you get the other 900#

 

[Mat4644]

For a front loader the further behind the rear wheels ballast is the more effective it is vs wheel ballast. Calculated it for two tractors and it is 30 to 40% more effective. 1300 pounds sounds light for backhoe with a FEL needing 2300 pounds ballast.

 

[grsthegreat]

grsthegreat - if you have the standard - 13.6 x 24 tires. 38 gallons per tire - roughly 417# per tire.

Thanks

 

[Mat4644]

My owners manual states that you cannot use more than 2 55 pound weight per tire. And my loader requires 2300# of ballast. And if you have a backhoe that is only 1300# so were do you get the other 900#

Just get a qualified employee to operate the tractor.

 

[Hay Dude]

My owners manual states that you cannot use more than 2 55 pound weight per tire. And my loader requires 2300# of ballast. And if you have a backhoe that is only 1300# so were do you get the other 900#

Id probably try to curl up something up with the backhoe dipper stick and bucket for more counterweight, then use a ratchet strap to temporarily secure it.

 

[Hay Dude]

Using liquid ballast in tractor tires.

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I can’t help but think liquid ballast works better than nothing, but the downsides of using it, as described above, are not a long term, reliable or practical method.

 

[Mat4644]

Multiple manufactures quietly recommended only 40% liquid fill. They do this at a low level because they know their dealers are still filling at the 75% old standard.

For someone with 350 pounds liquid per tire this takes it down to 190 pounds.

 

[RandyT]

Multiple manufactures quietly recommended only 40% liquid fill. They do this at a low level because they know their dealers are still filling at the 75% old standard.

For someone with 350 pounds liquid per tire this takes it down to 190 pounds.

So what do they do with the tubeless Calcium Chloride fills. Supposedly it doesn't corrode the rims if the rims are completely submerged and can't interact with the air.

 

[LouNY]

So what do they do with the tubeless Calcium Chloride fills. Supposedly it doesn't corrode the rims if the rims are completely submerged and can't interact with the air.

Supposedly is a real big word,
I have seen a few of the rims which were run tubeless and filled over the top of the rim,
it still corroded quite badly

If this works it is a link to a pdf of the amount of calcium chloride per gallon of water and its slush and solid freeze points;
https://www2.gov.bc.ca/assets/gov/farming-natural-resources-and-industry/agriculture-and-seafood/farm-management/structures-and-mechanization/200-series/210104-1_calcium-water_table_for_tractor_tires.pdf


edited to add,
when you do a 90% fill your ride quality is dismal and if large enough rocks are hit with sufficient force you can actually split a tire open.

 

[Lunk]

If using Rim Guard, can tire be plugged and have it hold? Currently the Ag tires on a machine I bought used are plugged. Maybe a newbie mistake, but I never thought to check, or ask. Anyway, after 2 years of use, still holding.

But, am considering loading tires. Local shop only does calcium with inner tubes. So looking at Rim Guard. Can a tire be safely plugged when filled with Rim Guard?

In short, yes. On My TYM the dealer filled all 4 tires with Rimguard. He would not sell a tractor w/loader without it..Twice I had large nails cause a front-tire leak, and successfully plugged the holes using an el-cheap plug kit. Tires are still leak-free 4 years later.

My Branson has WW fluid in the rears. Dealer added upon purchase.

 

[Dennisfly]

How about RV anti-freeze? It's Water, Propylene Glycol, Glycerin, and rust inhibitors. It's odorless, non-toxic, non-staining.

 

[Citydude]

How about RV anti-freeze? It's Water, Propylene Glycol, Glycerin, and rust inhibitors. It's odorless, non-toxic, non-staining.

I wondered the same thing. I’m not sure but I think it’s more expensive than windshield washer.