Rim Guard --> Beet Juice

[AndyMA]

I've been running Rim Guard in my TN for over a year now. Dealer who put it in is Kahn Tractor, North Franklin CT mentioned above. I'm not so sure it's as non toxic as I thought. I had a nail hole in a 16.9 x 30 rear that I didn't notice for a week and when I came back the entire tire was flat and the ground was very sticky. I had a new tube put in the the tire refilled. This spring the entire area where the spill occurred looks like I sprayed roundup. It may just be the fact that 70 gallons of Rim Guard spilled in about a 5x10 foor area and puddled up. all in all I like the Rim Guard.

Andy

 

[JohnMiller3]

<font color="blue">...It worked ... </font>

Excellent Derek!!!! /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

...but one question... why did you have to remove the wheels from the tractor to do this...? (why not leave them mounted?)

(when the tire bead is broken from the wheel like that... I'd worry about future seal problems and losing a few hundred dollars of rim guard on the ground some morning...)

 

[Rowski]

Originally when my valve stem was leaking I put the tire ar the 12:00 position. But the chloride was leaking right on to the tractor axle housing and operator deck mounting point. I didn't know how long it would be before I got it fixed. So I removed the tire. Them tires are sure heavy with 65 gallons of chloride. Also I needed to sandblast and paint the rims where the rust was. Most everone I talked to do it, as you mentioned, leave the rim on the tractor. It worked for me, may have made more work for myself, but what's new.

As far as bead seal not holding, I have tube type tires. Which is a good thing or a bad thing. I would have liked to have tubeless, would have saved me some time and money, for new tubes. My beads fully seated with about 25 psi, the tire says max seating pressure is 35 psi.

 

[timb]

Derek - are you saying that with the tubes you just re-filled with air normally and your tires reseated correctly at 25psi? I always thought that to get a tubeless tire to seat you had to hit it with a "blast" from a special (high volume) supply to "pop" it into place. (If you can't use a cinch strap to physically squeeze the tire out) Sounds like the tubes might be a big advantage in a do-it-yourself situation and only a small compressor.

 

[Bird]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( thought that to get a tubeless tire to seat you had to hit it with a "blast" from a special (high volume) supply to "pop" it into place )</font>

Nope, most of the time you can seat either tube type or tubeless without the special high volume equipment, but then every once in awhile you either need that or the cinch strap. /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

 

[agcomike]

I was wondering why you need rim guard for? calcium mix is said to be safe and effective down to -45.. as long as you fill it properly according to some ag engineers i talked too.. i know my old ford lawn tractor with 23's had some noticable leakage and rust so i'm realy not so sure about that eather..

 

[MikePA]

<font color="blue"> I was wondering why you need rim guard for? </font>
It's not that calcium chloride doesn't work or that it will freeze. The problem is when it leaks it will kill any vegetation it contacts. In some of his other posts, Derek inidcated it caused rust and that his tires were improperly filled.

 

[Kelvin]

Are there any updates to any of the information in these posts?

Is there a Rim Guard Web site yet?

Thanks,
Kelvin

 

[PineRidge]

I was wondering why you need rim guard? Why not bolt on wheel weights and slime in the tires to prevent flats? Is there a difference between weighted tires using wheel weights vs Rim Guard? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

 

[Kelvin]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Is there a difference between weighted tires using wheel weights vs Rim Guard? )</font>

CENTER OF GRAVITY issues:

Fluid in Tires: Most of the fluid's weight would be below the center of the wheel (and below the tractor's center of gravity as well).

Wheels Weights: The weight of the wheel weights would be distributed such that there would be an equal amount of weight above and below the center of the wheel.

Conclusion: Using fluid in tires for additional weight will be more beneficial in lowering the tractor's center-of-gravity thus making the tractor more stable and safer.

OVERALL WEIGHT ISSUES:

I believe the following statements to be true, but don't have any data readily available to back up the statements:

(1) I believe that you can increase the weight of a tractor wheel more when using fluid than you can using wheel weights.
(2) Using fluid is cheaper than purchasing wheel weights.
(3) Assuming 200 to 300 lbs of weight, the fluid would be much easier to work with than the weights.

Kelvin