Rim guard or not? Why a ballast box instead of boxblade?

[ovrszd]

I should probably look at some sort of bolt on supplemental weight to work in conjunction with the box blade.

I have saw suitcase weights used on a BB. Takes a little fab skill to make a weight bracket.

 

[CADplans]

I have saw suitcase weights used on a BB. Takes a little fab skill to make a weight bracket.

A simple bar is all that is needed to hang the weights,,

If I need a ballast for the 4105,, the landplane is heavy enough,,

(THAT is why the extra weights were on the grill guard,,)

ALSO, be sure to tie the weights to the place that they are being added,,
they fall off at the most inopportune time,,

 

[LouNY]

There is considerable hp lost in friction in high gear,
many hills would require a partial gear drop with a tractor with loaded tires compared to one with a few hundred pounds of iron on it.
These were both 656's many years ago.
Working in a plowed field the loaded tire one would do a better job most of the time,
hauling wagons iron was much quicker, quick being a relative term.
Even with the larger tractors road hauling is much better with iron then liquid filled.
Those old row crops were built much heavier then these new cut's are.

 

[CADplans]

One thing that I have never seen done, but, would be perfect,,
Change the drawbar hitch to a piece of 3X12 (or similar) steel bar, as long as there is room for.

Under the tractor, the weight would be out of the way.
And, with the weight down low, the center of gravity is lowered, making the tractor safer on a grade.

My BIL had a 55 gallon drum on the three point of his loader tractor.
It was filled with old steel and concrete.

If the three point was raised too much, the center of gravity was raised,,
the tractor actually felt MORE TIPPY with that ballast all the way up.

 

[npalen]

I wonder if liquid loaded tires have any effect in a tractor roll over incident? (The weight of the liquid suddenly moving to the other side of the tire) Could that cause a 180 degree roll verses just a 90 degree?

 

[RoyJackson]

If the three point was raised too much, the center of gravity was raised,,
the tractor actually felt MORE TIPPY with that ballast all the way up.

There is absolutely no need to raise any implement to full height unless clearance is needed.
My gear comes up just high enough...if, for some reason I need more height, I'll raise it, than lower as soon as practical
All this is common sense...not rocket science

 

[RoyJackson]

I wonder if liquid loaded tires have any effect in a tractor roll over incident? (The weight of the liquid suddenly moving to the other side of the tire) Could that cause a 180 degree roll verses just a 90 degree?

If that happened, it would be operator error...going too fast for conditions and not understanding (or ignoring) the limitations of the equipment...
In other words, a Darwin award winner...

 

[CADplans]

All this is common sense...not rocket science

All that is common sense, to someone who has operated equipment before.

A Novice will,,, "just raise the attachment",,, it happens all the time.

 

[npalen]

If that happened, it would be operator error...going too fast for conditions and not understanding (or ignoring) the limitations of the equipment...
In other words, a Darwin award winner...

Probably didn't make my question clear......When a tractor starts to roll, does the fluid weight suddenly being thrown to the "downhill" side of the tire affect the outcome?

 

[BeezFun]

Probably didn't make my question clear......When a tractor starts to roll, does the fluid weight suddenly being thrown to the "downhill" side of the tire affect the outcome?

I think you make a good point. Tires are normally filled ~80% so if the tractor starts to roll that fluid in the bottom 80% of the tire starts to slosh into the top 20% of the space that's normally just air. Especially the fluid in the tire on the "top" side of the tractor. Makes an already bad situation a bit worse.