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[Dr_Zinj]

Wow Lostalot, and here I thought most of the world's criminals were in the U.S. government. :laughing:
I hope you get the correct equipment, and hold those ruffian's feet to the fire.

 

[kebo]

It is a purty machine, but hopefully when you get that new Shibaura in, it will look even better!!

 

[Lostalot]

@ Dr Zinj
I just hope that this dealer comes good on his promise of a full refund as I have had a gutful

@kebo

What is a Leinback Middlebuster? ( sounds a bit like my first wife)

 

[TripleR]

Dang, and the loader they put on has a self-leveling bucket. Too bad it's so wimpy. Good luck!

Looks like two cylinders too. Looks like it may even be a more expensive loader than the Kubota, but the linkage looks like it puts the bucket out further making it weaker and less stable.

 

[Lostalot]

Hello all,
further info has just come in which there has been some changes to machinery specifications for use in Australia, firstly all loaders must be self levelling , loaders used for lifting via slings etc must have hoseburst protection
devices fitted and there is more but no one is up to speed yet.

 

[TripleR]

We had a mechanical self leveling loader on our Case CX80 and finally scrapped all of the linkage we could remove. It helped, but had no where near the power of our M8540.

 

[Lostalot]

Some years back I put from new 4000 hrs on a JCB 3CX, after 600hrs it started to lose lift strength and was stuttering both front and back and degraded further until all of the poppit valves were replaced along with the pumps. It turned out that each country's distributor / dealer could specify the type of pumps to be fitted and of course our mob down under went for the cheapy chinese units which fell to bits and because the plumbing was specific for the pump type you could not swap and mix between good and bad pumps . It also explained why some JCB backhoes were rated for 750 kg
over the forks and others at 1500kg.

 

[OrangeRidge]

I notice all these generic make FEL on BX and B3200 when I
looked at Nambour on an open day last month . They had 3 different
FEL on BX's on the yard.
Apparently the loader on the JD X748 mower is now banned here ......
as you've pointed out w.r.t. levelling.
It's a ***** when you don't get what you want , which is why I
pay by bank cheque upon delivery , and hand over when tested
and happy.

 

[Lostalot]

In my case I was a bit too trusting and paid for it.....On advice returning the machine for refund (promised ) was leaving myself open for more dramas so I am hanging on to it for now,it is a very easy thing to operate and where it would take five hours and 18 ltrs of fuel on the JD L110 it took only two hours and about six ltrs to mow our 3.5 acres with the 2360 (60" mmm) so
a sizeable improvement. Also it handles our goat country well . A mate in
the engineering game has some expertise in the new OHS regs and with some different tyres and removing the mm deck for loader work we can up the lift
rating by 80 kgs,so food for thought.Regards

 

[Lostalot]

@ Orange Ridge

I paid by bank cheque but the bank would not stop it as it was regarded as a dispute between myself and the dealer,I originally wanted to pay eftpos but that would have incurred a $300.00 surcharge from the dealer regards

 

[OrangeRidge]

I handed my bank cheque over to the manager of Nambour David Evans
when he brought it out . With regard to your problem , I have to say
that the Kubota Australia and DEG websites did NOT have these Titan
etc loaders on the BX advertising , but they were the loader that the special
price applied to . The problem with internet vs. paper flyer is that you've
got no proof after they pull the site photo , whereas the paperwork
photo IS proof of fraudulent advertising . I reckon they're aware of
this as the lag-time was many weeks before the site mirrored the
actual supplied product . I feel for you , as I think you were duped
by your guy , to be honest.

 

[OrangeRidge]

Can I ask of your 2360 Did you get a water trap/seperator on your unit?..

Not on mine , but I throw 25ml of this in with every tank of diesel.
This is magic stuff ; http://www.fueldoctors.com.au/

 

[Lostalot]

@Orange Ridge
Thanks, up here with our high humidity for a good part of the year the diesel bug is a biggie, I will try it..thanks again

 

[MikeFarm]

Hi

This is a bit off-topic here but I'll make a small comment.

Not on mine , but I throw 25ml of this in with every tank of diesel.
This is magic stuff ; http://www.fueldoctors.com.au/

I looked at their website and video of their "tests" with competing products. Not very good - their so-called sulphuric acid was brown (it should be clear), he used a finger over the test tube so the sulphuric acid must be quite weak (so why was it brown) and he did not use the manufacturers recommended amounts for the competing products. The product is probably quite fine, no problem with emulsifying water with diesel using surfactants or ethanol or other additives. Just that they could have devised a more rigorous and believable testing demo.

Mike

 

[schmism]

sounds like the "aftermarket" loader is exactly inline with advertised kubota specs

http://www.kubota.com/product/BX1860/pdf/bx60_series_spec.pdf

Kubota says the Bx25 loader has a capacity of 235Kg.

even the smallest Burder loader (rated for 15-20hp tractors) is listed with a 300kg capacity.

Burder Industries Products Page

unless you have pics showing load stickers on the actual equipment that state otherwise, It seems as if no fraud has been committed.

On a personal note, i always have to laugh at the guys that buy the sub-compact "tractors" and then expect there supped up riding lawn mowers to compete with even small CUTs.

 

[OrangeRidge]

Take a look at #19

 

[Lostalot]

@ schmism

The comparison was only to justify my new purchase as I was really struggling on the JD with my dud left leg

 

[Lostalot]

@ Schmism
Sorry I should have explained further... With my injuries it was impossible to
mow on the JD at normal speed(too rough) so I was stuck with a still high reving machine(to maintain cutting speed) at low travel speed, on the 2360
it is so much more soft riding and thus a quicker unit.

 

[Lostalot]

@ SCHMISM

Further, you are quite right with your specs for the sl2400, the papaerwork delivered with my machine has no mention at all on the fitted sl2400. The paperwork supplied with the machine refered to the Burder 302O, 3030,
3050 , 6050,etc. I eventually found a web page with the specs on the 2400 and yes the lift capacity is 300 kg on a recommended machine of 15-20hp.
Perhaps you can give some insight on why it drops down to 120kg on a 2360!

 

[bcp]

Perhaps you can give some insight on why it drops down to 120kg on a 2360!

Have you tried lifting a known weight, maybe a barrel of water or some weighed items, to see what it will actually lift? The numbers may be wrong.

Bruce