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I just heard more on the robots. Three of them killed 29 lab workers. The fourth tried to link to a satalite and remake itself to protect itself as the other three robots were being destroyed.

Musk is asking for a UN ban on killer (AI) robots.

News link on the lab deaths? I can't find anything similar.

Bruce
 
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   / Robots to opperate bulldozers, excavators and other construction vehicles... #23  
Well - supposedly robots can be programed to do EXACTLY what they are designed to do and quite efficiently.

Unfortunately - there a lot of humans that do not exhibit that ability.

WoW - have I mentioned that my shoulder is hurting like a SOAB. Have you noticed..........
 
   / Robots to opperate bulldozers, excavators and other construction vehicles... #25  
This technology shouldn't be surprising to any of us. Here is an actual heavy equipment operator from the future as predicted in a 1972 episode of The Jetsons!
 

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   / Robots to opperate bulldozers, excavators and other construction vehicles... #26  
Our military has been flying unmanned predator drones from the other side of our planet for 15 years that I know of.

This is not new technology. It's simply becoming more cost effective.

Kinze is developing a robot grain cart to be used in the AG world. It is to be a true robot. No man onboard. Completely functioning off computer based data provided by all the other manned equipment involved in the operation.
 
   / Robots to opperate bulldozers, excavators and other construction vehicles... #27  
Robot is kind of a catch-all term now. At my last job, we'd find a clerical type task that someone was doing on the computer, then use software to catch their keystrokes, then build a task that would duplicate the results. Then we'd take an old PC and run that task on that PC. We'd call it a robot box. And it was, because it did an automated task repetitively, with no human intervention.

The tricky part about robots, wether it's software or hardware, is accounting for the out-of-the-ordinaries. That is, unexpected or infrequently encountered situations. A human would know, for example, how to read handwritten instructions scribbled or typed into a NOTES field, and act on those instructions. Robot might have issues with that. So you have to program in check boxes for all foreseeable options and program the robot to act on those check boxes. Then it's just a matter of adding in new check boxes as they pop up from time to time.

Anyhow, I ended up with about 50 robot boxes doing tasks that humans used to do. The PC was about $600 new, depreciated to way less than that, worked 24/7, and told us when there was a problem. And we didn't have to pay them wages or benefits. Most of the lost human jobs were through attrition back then, so at least we didn't let anyone go at the time. However, it didn't create any new jobs.

And THAT is why automation of all tasks will eventually lead to very few jobs. The only jobs left will be for the people that think of the new jobs to be done, and a few installers, modifiers and preventative maintenance jobs. Machines are inherently less expensive than the people that run them over time, and it doesn't make business sense to hire people if you can have a machine do the same task and pay for itself in 6-7 years.
 
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Kinze hasn't figured out how to prevent the cart from running into a powerline pole in the middle of the field. Or driving off into a washout. Or over a big rock. Last I heard was to program it to exactly follow the previous equipment's path. This results in the cart taking the "long way" around to get to a truck that is parked a short distance away.

If memory serves me correctly didn't NASA have a similar problem with one of their Mars Rovers?

When NASA resolves the issue and passes the technology down we'll benefit from it. We have benefited dramatically from the Space Program.
 
   / Robots to opperate bulldozers, excavators and other construction vehicles... #29  
Kinze hasn't figured out how to prevent the cart from running into a powerline pole in the middle of the field. Or driving off into a washout. Or over a big rock. Last I heard was to program it to exactly follow the previous equipment's path. This results in the cart taking the "long way" around to get to a truck that is parked a short distance away.

If memory serves me correctly didn't NASA have a similar problem with one of their Mars Rovers?

When NASA resolves the issue and passes the technology down we'll benefit from it. We have benefited dramatically from the Space Program.

TANG? :laughing:

But yes, seriously, there's been literally thousands of now every day items, techniques, etc... that came from those programs. Lots of benefits from the nuclear bomb programs, too.
 

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