Rollover paranoia

[Blue Mule]

The Compact tractors are certainly more prone to this. They're lighter and have a higher COG. The Utility class is a different animal. More cast iron, lower COG, wider stance, PLUS the ability to turn the wheels around to widen the stance even more. It’s amazing what the highway mowing crews can do. Those tractors can seemingly climb mountains. My Compact, on the other hand, makes me nervous on the slightest of inclines.

 

[redman135]

For those who are interested in making thier small tractor ,sxs ,or quad more stabil follow this link: https://www.clicdualwheels.co.nz/ another link Clic Dual Wheels in particular look at the section: removing and attatching click duals
Clic Dual Wheels link garbled on upload 2
2nd link re attatch and remoe click duals will not up load.

 

[redman135]

Clic Dual Wheels in particular look at the section on : remove and attatch click dual wheels.

 

[CliffordK]

Those duals look like an interesting solution. And adding a foot or so more width from the center line surely would help quite a bit.

 

[check 6]

I had a “B” series Kubota with a cab and found it very “tippy” as the weight is high and the wheelbase narrow. That was years ago and I moved up to a Grand L cabbed as the rear wheel base was almost 13” wider and thus the stability was much better . I’m now back to an open BX which works fine for my current needs .

 

[Oaktree]

I got my first set of bi focal glasses, promptly tried to kill myself and the tractor. Working on rocky slopes and having the glasses change the location of the rocks and holes depending where you look down or out was a no go for me. Threw those glasses out that day and got a set of reading glasses.

My eyesight is way too bad to be able to function without glasses. Had contacts for many years but worsening astigmatism put the end to that. Seems every time I get a new prescription it takes me a week or so to get used to the way they're focused, though not so bad as to affect driving or tractor operation.

 

[mhodge1818]

This post is not to criticize the safety minded out there amongst you. Far from it, as I'm a lucky guy that rolled his tractor and survived it four years ago. My issue is wondering whether the "respect" that the incident instilled in me is proportional to the actual risk. My Kubota B3030 was the first and only tractor I've bought. Total noob guy. I was backing while moving dirt, hit an unexpected mound of dirt and rolled. The built in ROP of the cab protected me, and the door glass contained me and prevented entrapment or limb loss. My first thought laying there in the shattered glass was turning the motor off (fire), then getting out. Once I was standing outside looking at the dead tractor carcass, I wondered whether any of my neighbors were out and had seen me due to the potential embarrassment. I was all alone. Then it dawned on me that I had no cell phone, my wife was away, and had I been trapped it would have been about a 5 hour wait for her to find me. Then the fear set in. Totally preventable. I think the root causes were ignorance of both proper technique and the risks, rushing, and overconfidence. I happened to have an excavator on site, so I just chained the Kubota and flipped it upright. To my surprise there was absolutely zero damage besides the shattered door glass.
To my point- now I'm so nervous on most of my almost exclusively non-flat property that I'm hesitant to use the tractor for many things. I think remember the spec on it saying ok up to 12 or 15 degrees, but the worst slope anywhere I'd encounter is 11-12 degrees and even that gets me really anxious. I think the spec is for a bare tractor, not one with a FEL, belly mower, etc. so it doesn't help me feel any more confident. I tried leaving the belly mower installed to lower the CG but it was interfering enough that I opted to take it off. Not looking for a how-to or strategies for transiting hills, counterweighting, FEL tactics, etc. (Now) I've watched all those videos, which is why I admitted my ignorance as a factor in my accident.
Did I buy the wrong tractor? (kind of a narrow front axle) Am I unreasonably cautious? Is there such a thing? I considered getting an alarm/inclinometer to at least let me know when I'm reaching the nominal limits, kind of as a training aid to better know when nervousness is called for. It's almost like a fear of flying scenario situation. so, alarm or therapy? That's the Mrs., not me.

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[mhodge1818]

This post is not to criticize the safety minded out there amongst you. Far from it, as I'm a lucky guy that rolled his tractor and survived it four years ago. My issue is wondering whether the "respect" that the incident instilled in me is proportional to the actual risk. My Kubota B3030 was the first and only tractor I've bought. Total noob guy. I was backing while moving dirt, hit an unexpected mound of dirt and rolled. The built in ROP of the cab protected me, and the door glass contained me and prevented entrapment or limb loss. My first thought laying there in the shattered glass was turning the motor off (fire), then getting out. Once I was standing outside looking at the dead tractor carcass, I wondered whether any of my neighbors were out and had seen me due to the potential embarrassment. I was all alone. Then it dawned on me that I had no cell phone, my wife was away, and had I been trapped it would have been about a 5 hour wait for her to find me. Then the fear set in. Totally preventable. I think the root causes were ignorance of both proper technique and the risks, rushing, and overconfidence. I happened to have an excavator on site, so I just chained the Kubota and flipped it upright. To my surprise there was absolutely zero damage besides the shattered door glass.
To my point- now I'm so nervous on most of my almost exclusively non-flat property that I'm hesitant to use the tractor for many things. I think remember the spec on it saying ok up to 12 or 15 degrees, but the worst slope anywhere I'd encounter is 11-12 degrees and even that gets me really anxious. I think the spec is for a bare tractor, not one with a FEL, belly mower, etc. so it doesn't help me feel any more confident. I tried leaving the belly mower installed to lower the CG but it was interfering enough that I opted to take it off. Not looking for a how-to or strategies for transiting hills, counterweighting, FEL tactics, etc. (Now) I've watched all those videos, which is why I admitted my ignorance as a factor in my accident.
Did I buy the wrong tractor? (kind of a narrow front axle) Am I unreasonably cautious? Is there such a thing? I considered getting an alarm/inclinometer to at least let me know when I'm reaching the nominal limits, kind of as a training aid to better know when nervousness is called for. It's almost like a fear of flying scenario situation. so, alarm or therapy? That's the Mrs., not me.

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This post is not to criticize the safety minded out there amongst you. Far from it, as I'm a lucky guy that rolled his tractor and survived it four years ago. My issue is wondering whether the "respect" that the incident instilled in me is proportional to the actual risk. My Kubota B3030 was the first and only tractor I've bought. Total noob guy. I was backing while moving dirt, hit an unexpected mound of dirt and rolled. The built in ROP of the cab protected me, and the door glass contained me and prevented entrapment or limb loss. My first thought laying there in the shattered glass was turning the motor off (fire), then getting out. Once I was standing outside looking at the dead tractor carcass, I wondered whether any of my neighbors were out and had seen me due to the potential embarrassment. I was all alone. Then it dawned on me that I had no cell phone, my wife was away, and had I been trapped it would have been about a 5 hour wait for her to find me. Then the fear set in. Totally preventable. I think the root causes were ignorance of both proper technique and the risks, rushing, and overconfidence. I happened to have an excavator on site, so I just chained the Kubota and flipped it upright. To my surprise there was absolutely zero damage besides the shattered door glass.
To my point- now I'm so nervous on most of my almost exclusively non-flat property that I'm hesitant to use the tractor for many things. I think remember the spec on it saying ok up to 12 or 15 degrees, but the worst slope anywhere I'd encounter is 11-12 degrees and even that gets me really anxious. I think the spec is for a bare tractor, not one with a FEL, belly mower, etc. so it doesn't help me feel any more confident. I tried leaving the belly mower installed to lower the CG but it was interfering enough that I opted to take it off. Not looking for a how-to or strategies for transiting hills, counterweighting, FEL tactics, etc. (Now) I've watched all those videos, which is why I admitted my ignorance as a factor in my accident.
Did I buy the wrong tractor? (kind of a narrow front axle) Am I unreasonably cautious? Is there such a thing? I considered getting an alarm/inclinometer to at least let me know when I'm reaching the nominal limits, kind of as a training aid to better know when nervousness is called for. It's almost like a fear of flying scenario situation. so, alarm or therapy? That's the Mrs., not me.

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The exact thing happened to me a few years ago. I have been running tractors for most of my 67 years and never had any issues. On a previous load some dirt dropped out of the loader so on the next load ,backing up I hit the small pile. That was it the tractor rolled on its side,no belt I leaped out and luckily made it. Lesson learned, belt on keep the load as low as possible.

 

[tradosaurus]

 

[tacticalturnip]

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I don't know what prompted this, but I heard it in Pat Gray's voice...