Root Grapple vs Root Rake Grapple

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cowbridge

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I've been looking around to buy a grapple for my ck2610.

What are the different uses between a root grapple and a root rake grapple? The root grapple has a longer floor like a loader bucket so I assume its better for scooping things like logs. And the root rake grapple is more like a blade so I suppose its better for pushing things like brush into a pile.

My use will be for cleaning and maintaining a wooded property... picking up limbs, moving brush, dealing with logs etc.

Which type is better for me?
 
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I have been trying to decide which one to buy too.
I don't want a double lid, I really like the clam shell type, but don't know if that is really what I need ,or not.
I am now using a thumb grapple on my yanmar which has worked very well. I need something for my Kubota

I like the wicked root rake from everything attachments, but Just don't know if that is what I actually need
 
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You have it about right. IMO the root type grapple can do everything the rock grapple can fairly easily but the rock grapple can't quiet do everything the root one can, if that makes sense. The Rock grapples weight less though. Root grapples seem to be the most popular and I really like mine.
 
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Here's my brief go-to answer on the subject...
I think both styles have certain advantages.

Root Rake Style
The root rake style is designed to allow you to forcefully pull brush, vines and other debris backwards with the top lid, which isn't recommended with many long bottom grapples.
You can also pull down hard with the top lid if you want to pluck a limb from a tree or snatch a vine from one.
Dozer-like tine geometry promotes a tractor's ability to better push the tines through the ground with ease, putting the pressure on your rigid loader arms instead of your curl cylinders.
This design also keeps the load closer to your tractor, which reduces the center of gravity and somewhat increasing the tractor's lift capacity.


Our newest 55" Wicked Root Rake grapple, weighing 200 pounds, takes lightweight grapple construction to the next level and maintains strength at the same time. Ted proved it by testing the grapple on our L6060 and putting footage on YouTube for the world to see.
It is, by far, my most recommended grapple for small compact and subcompact tractors such as the Kubota B and BX series to squeeze every possible amount of lift capacity from them. The strong, ultra light design is untouched by any other on the market.

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For those with larger tractors, the 55"'s big bro is our 400 pound range 60" and 72" Xtreme compact root rake grapple. It's a "Ted enhanced" version of Bradco's compact root rake grapple and has been bulletproof from the start. It's best for tractors with 35hp up to around 60hp.

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Long Bottom Root Grapple
This Original Wicked style is the best selling style for tractors, hands down. It's full spanning hinge pins and reinforced cylinder mounts allow you to do some things described above with the lids, but good judgement should be exercised.
Our unique, unobstructed long-bottom Wicked Grapple tines also promotes a tractor's ability to push them through the ground, unlike many cheaper ones which use bulky triangular gussets as shown below.


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You should be able to grab a larger pile of brush with the traditional Wicked style because you can cradle and physically fit more "inside" it.

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It will also be more efficient for grabbing loose material such as leaves, pine needles, hay or firewood.

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More useful situations. Cradling an oversized boulder, moving plywood or roofing material, stacking tools for transport or even pinching a ball point pin!

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I hope this helps!
Travis
 
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I'm liking the looks of the EA 55" wicked root rake grapple.

Are the bottom tines long enough to move logs?
 
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I'm liking the looks of the EA 55" wicked root rake grapple.

Are the bottom tines long enough to move logs?

I moved a lot of logs with my EA 55 last summer, no problem.
A few near the limits of my loader, the grapple has some serious clamping force .
 

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I moved a lot of logs with my EA 55 last summer, no problem.
A few near the limits of my loader, the grapple has some serious clamping force .

Thanks
 
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Imo, both handle logs just fine.

It's all the other stuff that makes a difference.

If that other stuff includes alot of carrying and scooping, like loading firewood, or carrying brush, lumber and other long stuff you don't want to risk damage to by clamping on......then long bottom is what you want.

If other tasks primarily include pushing, like brush and ripping roots up.....then a rake style is for you
 
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The rakes have a shorter footprint so if working in tight spots is a concern then that's something to think about as well. It was for me working in the woods.
 

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I have a root rake style from Anbo. It does everything I asked for, even pick up three logs straight up so that’s not an issue.
 
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The rakes have a shorter footprint so if working in tight spots is a concern then that's something to think about as well. It was for me working in the woods.

Good point, Eric. Your woods sure serve as a beautiful backdrop! :thumbsup:
Travis

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If your tractor is on the small side and you will be loading brush into trailers or piling high, you might want to watch Ted's youtube video using the small wicked grapple. After watching him struggle dumping his load on a trailer, I opted to buy the EA root rake grapple and have been extremely happy with it.
 
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So which one did you eventually end up with and how did it work out? Im waiting on my 55 inch wicked grapple to arrive!
 
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I went with the 55" wicked root rake grapple. It hasnt shipped yet, but I cant wait to put it to work
 
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Five years ago I purchased a Land Pride SGC 1560 Rock & Root grapple. It's VERY heavy duty - high strength steel - 60" wide - weight 820#.

I got this TYPE because - I have little to no brush. I deal with LARGE rocks and massive chunks of my Ponderosa pine. I wanted and got a very heavy duty unit. I did not want a unit that would bend or crumple with use. I have not had a single moments problem with this implement.

Also - notice the expanded metal that has been welded on the grill guard. Help prevent sticks, stobs, roots, etc from finding my grill, battery or radiator.

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