Rope suggestions and help

[joemd11]

Hopefully someone more versed on "barber chair" will chime in on the topic. I've been told that when they occur they can kill or severely injure the tree cutter.

 

[bcp]

Video from the link below:

Barber chair explained:

http://www.arboristsite.com/community/threads/barber-chair-theory.158360/

Bruce

 

[gsganzer]

I like stretchy rope to encourage a tree, but usually use a hand winch, not a vehicle, to apply tension. A no-stretch steel cable quits pulling as soon as the tree moves. A stretchy rope continues pulling for a few feet.

Bruce

What Bruce says. I was an arborist back when I was in college and I've dropped a bunch of tree's, using a bull rope for insurance. You want some stretch., so you pre-load the pull on the tree. Otherwise, your partner inevitably "rolls back" when he/she lets their foot off the brake or lets out the clutch, risking the tree setting back and your hinge breaking.

Here's a good choice for a 3/4" rope.

Rigging rope

 

[2manyrocks]

I have a poplar tree about 100' tall too close to the house.

How far up the tree should I go with a rope to pull it back away from the direction of the house?

How do I get the rope that far up the tree without paying somebody to climb the tree?

 

[Garandman]

I had a MIGHTY ponderosa pine -36 inches on the butt - that I was going to do that trick on. The more I thought about it - the more it worried me. Fear of pulling the tree over on my new tractor, etc etc. //

Get a pulley and tie it to something like another tree. That keeps you clear, makes the pull parallel to the ground, and gives you more leverage.

Example.

 

[turnkey4099]

Be advised, as others mentioned, when you start pulling on a tree, your putting force into the trunk that makes the trunk want to barberchair. So: 1) Don't pull too hard. 2) For the back cut, consider making a plunge cut behind the hinge and cutting away from the hinge to the holding strap. 3) Consider wrapping a chain around the trunk just above where you're cutting so that if it does start to barberchair, the chain holds it together.

Nothing more impressive than starting a back cut and have a barber chair start and then be stopped by the chain.

I used use a chain but it is all but impossible to get the chain tight. I changed to using one of those tie-down straps that have a 'crank' mechanism to tighten. Those straps come with some impressive breaking strengths.

Harry K

 

[turnkey4099]

One thing to keep in mind is that once the tree just starts to move in the direction of the pull, all control by the rope/cable is gone. I have done a few by stretching the rope/cable from tree to a good anchor and then hanging buckets of water off he middle of it. I hope it maintains the pull a bit longer.

Harry K

 

[turnkey4099]

I have a poplar tree about 100' tall too close to the house.

How far up the tree should I go with a rope to pull it back away from the direction of the house?

How do I get the rope that far up the tree without paying somebody to climb the tree?

If there is much of a lean. Don't do it. Weigh the cost of repairing a roof vs saving a few hundred hiring a professional. I did that for a birch about that size also too close to the house. $500 that included some trimming in other trees and grinding out a stump.

Harry K

 

[gsganzer]

I have a poplar tree about 100' tall too close to the house.

How far up the tree should I go with a rope to pull it back away from the direction of the house?

How do I get the rope that far up the tree without paying somebody to climb the tree?

It's tough to give you some guidance on this without seeing it. obviously, the higher the better, to gain the advantage of leverage. However, with a good 12,000lb rated rope, you'd be surprised how much pull you can get on a tree using only 1/2 the rope rating (6000lbs.) (visualize hanging a single cab 3/4 ton pickup from a rope, it's a lot of weight) Probably just as important is understanding the notch, back-cut and hinge. If you ever cut through the hinge, you just lost all control of the tree. You want to leave the offhand side of the hinge (the side opposite where you DON'T want the tree to fall) thicker so it doesn't go in the wring direction. I'd really need to sketch this out to give you a better understanding.

 

[2manyrocks]

There's a poplar in the lower left hand corner with a green ribbon on it that has grown with two forks. There is another poplar with one trunk just to the right of it that needs to be cut as well. Maybe not the best picture, but try zooming in. I can make more photos.