Rotary Cutter

[Moore7681]

Looking for some information on Rotary Cutters to maitain and clear 2 acres of wooded lot, I have seen many out there from very expensive to dirt cheap, I am going to use my 2320 to operate it so from what I have been told I can not get anything over 4ft cut I am leaning to Countyline through tractor supply but as usual I like to hear input from you guys due wealth of knowledge. I kinda got watch cost due the fact of the recent purchase of the tractor it self.......

 

[Moore7681]

I was also wondering does anyone know how long it takes for the dealer to recieve a tractor after you order it kinda biting at the bit its been almost 3weeks since I ordered my 2320 200CX with a 54D

 

[RoyJackson]

The Country Line brand is made or distributed by King Kutter. King Kutters are servicable, but not the prettiest girl at the ball. There are a number of TBNers that get many years of service from them.

You have plenty of 3ph lift capacity, but you're on the low end of the required PTO HP for a 5' cutter. It'll work but, depending on the brush type and thickness, you may be going slow or making partial width passes.
If you're in a hurry, go for the 4' unit. If time isn't of the essence, maybe look at the 5' cutter.

As far as the delivery of the tractor...if it's on the dealer's lot or if he can pull one from another dealer...won't be too long. If he has to order from the factory, it could be a few weeks to a couple months. These CUTs are brought in from Japan (until you get up to the 4xxx series) so it's not like they'll be trucked in from Iowa.

 

[deputy11]

I was also wondering does anyone know how long it takes for the dealer to recieve a tractor after you order it kinda biting at the bit its been almost 3weeks since I ordered my 2320 200CX with a 54D

7 and a half weeks now for a 3520 and 300cx. Not a happy camper.

 

[Moore7681]

Thanks Roy for the info, I think for the money I am going to go with the Countyline, Deputy when I ordered it from the dealer he said 2 to 2 1/2 weeks but 7 weeks I bet you are not a happy camper keep me posted. Thanks again.

 

[Moore7681]

From what the dealer has told me the compacts are assembled in louisiana I will keep you posted on what ever the delivery date shall be

 

[Moore7681]

Well here is the good news the tractor is in The bad news it could be up to two weeks for the 54D deck and the 200CX

 

[Jeepin4fun]

Tractor is assembled in Augusta, Georgia, motor is a yanmar from Japan but that's it. I think the 55 series was the last one where the whole tractor was built by yanmar.

 

[RoyJackson]

Tractor is assembled in Augusta, Georgia, motor is a yanmar from Japan but that's it. I think the 55 series was the last one where the whole tractor was built by yanmar.

I believe you're incorrect.
Next time I run down to check the 790, I'll check the product identification plate. I'm pretty sure all the smaller and medium sized CUTs are built in Japan, knocked down for shipment and then set up in the US (basically install the tires, fluids and things like that). Most of the 5xxx series are built in India.

 

[JD755]

Tractor is assembled in Augusta, Georgia, motor is a yanmar from Japan but that's it. I think the 55 series was the last one where the whole tractor was built by yanmar.

My 755 was assembled in Augusta, Georgia, the first year that plant opened.

 

[JD755]

Just a couple pictures JD used on the back of their advertising brochures during the late 90s. One shows the 4000 series tractors, the other shows the 5000 Ten series. In the background of both are the earlier 55 and 5000 series tractors still on display.

 

[JD755]

Just more filler for what it is worth. A couple clips from JD announcements in 2006 regarding the 500,000th tractor (a 4720 cab) from the Augusta plant:

"The John Deere Augusta facility is home to the John Deere 2000 TWENTY Series, 3000 TWENTY Series and 4000 TWENTY Series compact utility tractors, as well as the 5000 Series utility tractors. In 2001, 10 years after the factory was first opened, the company dedicated a new 206,000-sq ft facility specifically for the production of the 5000 Series Tractors. In sum, Augusta now encompasses 413,000 sq ft of production and shipping space on slightly more than 200 acres."

Since the first John Deere 855 Tractor was built in 1991, John Deere-Augusta has been the linchpin-facility for the production of our high-quality compact utility tractors, says John Jenkins, president, John Deere Worldwide Commercial and Consumer Equipment. Over the past 15 years the products in the under 60-horsepower category have evolved tremendously. But our goal today remains as singular as when that first John Deere 855 came off the line in 1991: To provide our customers with products that deliver the quality and value they have come to expect from John Deere.

 

[C-Range]

Anyway, to get back to the question of this thread, I have a 413 rotary mower on my 2305. It's a 4ft cutter. I wouldn't dream of putting anything bigger on it, in fact, it's really just a little too big in my opinion but it's all I could find in my area on Craigslist at the time.

When I kick on the PTO, I need to have the engine rpm just right. Too low and the engine stalls, too high and the surge through the tractor is shocking. The sweet spot is around 1700 rpm. This mower is very heavily built and I'm amazed that the 3PH can even lift it, but it does and without hesitation.

Then again, I've heard others say they run a 5ft deck on these sized machines. Hat's off to em.

 

[RoyJackson]

I believe you're incorrect.
Next time I run down to check the 790, I'll check the product identification plate. I'm pretty sure all the smaller and medium sized CUTs are built in Japan, knocked down for shipment and then set up in the US (basically install the tires, fluids and things like that). Most of the 5xxx series are built in India.

I finally remembered to look at the product ID plate. It clearly states "Yanmar Company". This plate (on a 790, 770, 670 and probably most others) is affixed just above the PTO shield, for those of you who want to look.
I think you'll find quite a few Deere CUTs are Yanmar and Augusta just does the final assembly (install tires and maybe some sheet metal).

Quoted from Ensoll:When I kick on the PTO, I need to have the engine rpm just right. Too low and the engine stalls, too high and the surge through the tractor is shocking. The sweet spot is around 1700 rpm. This mower is very heavily built and I'm amazed that the 3PH can even lift it, but it does and without hesitation.

Then again, I've heard others say they run a 5ft deck on these sized machines. Hat's off to em.

Gear tractors are easier to engage the PTO, especially with something like a cutter. A gear tranny clutch can "feather" the engagement. And, the operator can "blip" the throttle if the tractor starts to stall...I don't think hydros can do that.
I did quite well with a 5' cutter behind a Deere 670 (16.5 PTO HP). That was a 1900 lb tractor, BTW.

 

[defed]

i have a 6' king kutter box blade, and the quality of it is pretty good. also have a 6' king kutter 3pt finish mower. overall, pretty heavily built, but has a few design flaws (in my opinion). not sure of the make on my 5' brush hog. think it might be a howse, which is probably similar to kutter. of the 3 implements, the brush hog seems to be the weakest....but then again, it takes the most abuse.

 

[C-Range]

Yep, I completely agree with ya there Mr. Jackson. For engaging the PTO, in this case, I'd rather have a mechanical engagement for my own peace of mind. I don't know much about it but I understand these hydraulic systems are built to take it. But still....

As a matter of fact, I think the guy I bought the 413 from had a 670. He told me he got the mower with the tractor but never used it. Someone sure used it because I had to straighten out the sheet metal, replace the blades, and repair the chain guard before I could put it to work. Now she's as close to perfect as I'll be getting her.

 

[RoyJackson]

As a matter of fact, I think the guy I bought the 413 from had a 670. He told me he got the mower with the tractor but never used it. Someone sure used it because I had to straighten out the sheet metal, replace the blades, and repair the chain guard before I could put it to work. Now she's as close to perfect as I'll be getting her.

When I was shopping for a cutter, my intent was for a 4 footer. The Land Pride dealer (who was also a Kubota dealer) told me he sold the 5 foot cutters for use behind the Kubota 7500 tractors (now that's a 7510 or 7610, I believe).
I was pretty skeptical, but he was right.
About the only difference between the old 670 and my current 790 is the 790 doesn't bog as much and recovers quicker...and that's with 7.5 more PTO HP. The 670 didn't bog much...and recovery time was in seconds. The 790 is incremently better.

 

[JD755]

I finally remembered to look at the product ID plate. It clearly states "Yanmar Company". This plate (on a 790, 770, 670 and probably most others) is affixed just above the PTO shield, for those of you who want to look.
I think you'll find quite a few Deere CUTs are Yanmar and Augusta just does the final assembly (install tires and maybe some sheet metal).



Gear tractors are easier to engage the PTO, especially with something like a cutter. A gear tranny clutch can "feather" the engagement. And, the operator can "blip" the throttle if the tractor starts to stall...I don't think hydros can do that.
I did quite well with a 5' cutter behind a Deere 670 (16.5 PTO HP). That was a 1900 lb tractor, BTW.

Agree that the gear drive tractors, 650, 670, 770, etc, have always been built by Yanmar in Japan. But the hydro models were originally manufactured in Horicon, Wisconsin and later moved to Augusta, Georgia when that factory was built. They do use Yanmar engines.

As with anything like this there are individual exceptions. One of those would be the 4100. It was not built in Augusta. I remember stories about where it was built but never saw anything to confirm it. That model was marketed as a door-buster for the new 4000 series. The price increase to step up from it to the 4200 was about 50 percent.

 

[RoyJackson]

Agree that the gear drive tractors, 650, 670, 770, etc, have always been built by Yanmar in Japan. But the hydro models were originally manufactured in Horicon, Wisconsin and later moved to Augusta, Georgia when that factory was built. They do use Yanmar engines.

As with anything like this there are individual exceptions. One of those would be the 4100. It was not built in Augusta. I remember stories about where it was built but never saw anything to confirm it. That model was marketed as a door-buster for the new 4000 series. The price increase to step up from it to the 4200 was about 50 percent.

Learn something new every day!

 

[TripleR]

Gear tractors are easier to engage the PTO, especially with something like a cutter. A gear tranny clutch can "feather" the engagement. And, the operator can "blip" the throttle if the tractor starts to stall...I don't think hydros can do that.
I did quite well with a 5' cutter behind a Deere 670 (16.5 PTO HP). That was a 1900 lb tractor, BTW.[/QUOTE]

This will vary from one manufacturer to the next as my Kubota BX2660 has the "manual" engagement for the PTO while my JD 2305 doesn't, so I can use the lever to allow the cutter to spool up to full engagement.

As to the cutter, a County Line will be OK if you aren't going to cut anything other than relatively small stuff and grass/weeds and I wouldn't want anything bigger than a four footer.