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   / Rotary Cutters #51  
Done some more looking an I think there is no way the 110 is 86" wide. My 18k lbs Ford 5500 is only 81" and dad's 12k lb 4500 is 75". And the fact that the 110 only has a 6' FEL bucket.

I am guessing the 86" is the width of the outriggers when fully down? And am betting a 6' would cover your tracks....although just barley.

I expressed my doubts about the 86" width in an earlier post, but the OP hasn't commented on the issue.:confused3:

Steve

Addendum: Stabilizer Spread - Operating 2,5 m (98 in.) from Specifications.
 
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   / Rotary Cutters #52  
Agree. True heavier duty cutters come with better drive line components. Stronger gearbox, heavier stump jumper, more massive blades, etc. As well as thicker decks and sides, heavier tailwheel assemblies, and heavier hitch components.

No comparison between a light duty anything, and a try heavy duty unit from bushhog, landpride, woods, rhino, etc

I have not seen any difference in blades between light and heavy duty if the gear box is rated the same, not to say that there are not exceptions to this. I don't contend that every manufacturer provides the same components for every grade, just the ones that I checked. A 115 HP gear box and PTO shaft on a 6 foot shredder is going to be the same if the sheet metal is light gauge or 1/4" thick and they will both cut the same sized trees. Light duty might warp up a bit or dent the sides but that has nothing to do with the drive line. There isn't a lot of cost difference between a say 60HP gear box and a 100 HP one, the major cost of a bush hog is the steel decking and the bracing. The heavy duty one will have more bracing, thicker steel and the tail wheel steel heavier to carry the larger load. I haven't seen much difference in the tail wheel itself. Some have bushings while others have sealed bearings but the wheels seem to be the same, just the hub is different. My 306 model bush hog has dual tail wheel and 1/4" decking and side plates but I cant see any difference in the PTO shaft or gear box. I cant say as I have crawled under it to measure the stump jumper thickness though.
 
   / Rotary Cutters #53  
I have not seen any difference in blades between light and heavy duty if the gear box is rated the same, not to say that there are not exceptions to this. I don't contend that every manufacturer provides the same components for every grade, just the ones that I checked. A 115 HP gear box and PTO shaft on a 6 foot shredder is going to be the same if the sheet metal is light gauge or 1/4" thick and they will both cut the same sized trees. Light duty might warp up a bit or dent the sides but that has nothing to do with the drive line. There isn't a lot of cost difference between a say 60HP gear box and a 100 HP one, the major cost of a bush hog is the steel decking and the bracing. The heavy duty one will have more bracing, thicker steel and the tail wheel steel heavier to carry the larger load. I haven't seen much difference in the tail wheel itself. Some have bushings while others have sealed bearings but the wheels seem to be the same, just the hub is different. My 306 model bush hog has dual tail wheel and 1/4" decking and side plates but I cant see any difference in the PTO shaft or gear box. I cant say as I have crawled under it to measure the stump jumper thickness though.

In my searches, I find this to be true also.

I consider gear box first so I don't overpower it and ultimately destroy it. I consider chassis durability second to make sure it will withstand my use.
 
   / Rotary Cutters #54  
This is a heavy duty cutter to me just to be clear. If it has less than a 7ga deck it's light duty IMO.

Brown 684 Extra Heavy Duty Brush Cutter with 84" Cut | 145 HP @ 540 RPM | Dual Tail Wheel | Brown Manufacturing | 800-633-8909

If you look at the lower cost 400 series Browns they also have 7ga deck. They are the only company I know of that does not make a light duty unit to my knowledge.

Brown 416 Rotary Cutter with 6' / 72" Cut | 130 HP Gear Box | Single Tail Wheel | Brown Manufacturing | 800-633-8909
 
   / Rotary Cutters #55  
Yep that's what I consider medium duty then light duty goes into 10 and 12 gauge sheet metal and 40hp gear boxes
 
   / Rotary Cutters #56  
My 306 model bush hog has dual tail wheel and 1/4" decking and side plates but I cant see any difference in the PTO shaft or gear box. I cant say as I have crawled under it to measure the stump jumper thickness though.

Compared to what?

Gearbox rating is typically where the cut capacity comes in. The 40-60hp gearboxes have smaller output shafts, and typically rated to cut up to 1-1/2" thick saplings.

The heavier 100+ HP gearboxes get ratings UP TO 4" cut capacity.

IF you are only rating the cutter for 1-1/2" capacity, no need for a super thick deck and sides. But If you are rating a cutter to mow over 4" stuff....you put a thicker deck and sides on it.

Dont know the dimensions or thickness either, but the stump jumper on the KK I have is a lot smaller and maybe weighs 10-15 lbs. and has 3/8" (maybe 1/2") x 3" blades attached. The 306 stump jumper prolly weighs 40# and has 1/2 x 4" blades. And as I mentioned, heavier cutters like the 406 have 5/8 x 5

I have never seen a 1-1/2" cutter and 40-60HP gearbox with a 3/16(7ga) or 1/4" deck. And likewise, I have never seen a cutter rated to cut 4" stuff with anything less than a 3/16 deck
 
   / Rotary Cutters #57  
Most Brown mowers are used by mowing contractors and tree services for right of way clearing for electric lines and pipelines.
 
   / Rotary Cutters #58  
Compared to what?

Gearbox rating is typically where the cut capacity comes in. The 40-60hp gearboxes have smaller output shafts, and typically rated to cut up to 1-1/2" thick saplings.

The heavier 100+ HP gearboxes get ratings UP TO 4" cut capacity.

IF you are only rating the cutter for 1-1/2" capacity, no need for a super thick deck and sides. But If you are rating a cutter to mow over 4" stuff....you put a thicker deck and sides on it.

Dont know the dimensions or thickness either, but the stump jumper on the KK I have is a lot smaller and maybe weighs 10-15 lbs. and has 3/8" (maybe 1/2") x 3" blades attached. The 306 stump jumper prolly weighs 40# and has 1/2 x 4" blades. And as I mentioned, heavier cutters like the 406 have 5/8 x 5

I have never seen a 1-1/2" cutter and 40-60HP gearbox with a 3/16(7ga) or 1/4" deck. And likewise, I have never seen a cutter rated to cut 4" stuff with anything less than a 3/16 deck
+ 1

SR
 
   / Rotary Cutters #59  
Most Brown mowers are used by mowing contractors and tree services for right of way clearing for electric lines and pipelines.
That should tell you they are good quality.
 
   / Rotary Cutters #60  
Why would the gearbox be higher rated for a heavy duty cutter if you only need a certain hp to turn it?
Gearboxes are rated for continuous HP. A cutter blade hitting a tree, cinder block, stump etc produces a very high momentary load. Even if driven by a small tractor the inertia of the engine is capable of supplying that high load because the duty cycle is low and it regains speed between hits. If you set up shear pin protection too light you end up changing it all the time. The bushog gearbox sees the full high repetitive load. Because of this, a gearbox rated at below 2X tractor HP will be problematic if heavy material is encountered very often.
 
 

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